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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post


    That's from one of the lore books, stating that the arcane arts have eluded all but a few - and as we know from the Reaper quests, a Pureblood Garlean can make a pact with Voidsent in order to wield aether.
    You might want to check what Reapers actually do again. And that entry is still not specific examples. Still waiting
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    You might want to check what Reapers actually do again. And that entry is still not specific examples. Still waiting
    What does it matter if it offers "specific" examples or not? It's an in-game textual basis for it. We only meet a tiny subset of the Garlean pureblood population, so if it is a trait that is rare in their populace, it stands to reason it'd be exceedingly improbable to run into it; granted, much of their population is sadly dead now. The source he offered would be a sufficient lore basis for an already exceedingly rarefied character to have such an origin story and still use aether.

    What examples of male Viera outside of their jungles were there in SB/SHB? Er... around a grand total of zero. Now they're all over insular Sharlayan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    You might want to check what Reapers actually do again. And that entry is still not specific examples. Still waiting
    So you want specific examples despite the fact the Encyclopedia Eorzea is an officially recognized source of lore information? I should think an excerpt from one of Square-Enix's own products about another of their products would be more than sufficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    You might want to check what Reapers actually do again. And that entry is still not specific examples. Still waiting
    It doesn't need anything specific though; it says point blank "Garleans have little inborn ability to manipulate their body's aether, however, and thius the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few". All but a few by definition means there are some, however far and few between, that can use aether.

    There is no reason why the PC couldn't be one of those rare few.

    That said, the only reason it wouldn't make sense in the story is because when friendly Garleans are revealed (eg Cid) it is something of a thing. I wouldn't even call it a big thing.... but it IS a thing. Most of these people make a point to hide their eye when in Allied areas.

    ...and THAT said, the elegant solution has been presented: make a glamour and call it something like "Garlean 3rd Eye Disguise". This makes it a non-story thing that RPers can use and enjoy without impact on the plot. The main character actually being a Garlean in-story creates a lot of potential subplots and questions that become too specific... like why wouldn't a significant group rally around an extremely powerful Garlean to try to put them on the throne as the new ruler, post EW? They clearly need a leader, and the Eikon-Slayer is absolutely on a power level of other world leaders.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 09-24-2022 at 11:54 PM.

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    Considering the reluctance to add new options to the character creation system, it would more likely end up as a glamour headpiece or a fashion accessory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Cat_Man View Post
    Then why are there aetherites in Garlemald?
    For non purebloods/conscripts. Did you pay attention to dialogue?
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    I highly support the addition of 3rd eye customization options so that we can play as Garleans. Ideally, I would like to see a sub race of Ilsabardian Hyurs added with Highlander-like physiques along with a 3rd eye. Let’s not gatekeep things, shall we? If they bent the lore for male Viera and male Miqote then the same can be done for Garleans. Otherwise, that may be indicative of an underlying bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    What does it matter if it offers "specific" examples or not? It's an in-game textual basis for it.
    To be able to check accuracy. Also EE is not in-game
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    To be able to check accuracy. Also EE is not in-game
    And? Not being present in-game does not strip the EE of its status as an officially recognized source of information. By your logic the Ancient lore in NieR Re[in]carnation also doesn't count simply because the terms of the crossover required it be put in another game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    To be able to check accuracy. Also EE is not in-game
    It is reflective of scholarly work and viewpoints in-game, comprised in large part of sources directly lifted from in-game texts, and is put out by the developers on this basis. So I have no idea, really, what your objection to it in this instance is, other than "it could be wrong" - much of it is taken on the basis of right until shown to be wrong, and in this case, there is nothing that has contradicted it explicitly. It's immaterial whether you accept it or not in this case. All that matters is that it is sufficient for the developers to draw upon it should they want to.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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