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  1. #1
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    Zarkovitch's Avatar
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100

    Mouse keyboard unfair advantage p8s door boss.

    Yes, I know mouse and keyboard is master race on this game and controller is a feature on pc. However, exploits like on p8s wiggling camera on mouse keyboard and be able gcd without having the character looking on the boss is unfair for controller players. I do not know if it was intended to be this way or netcode strikes again. I strongly advice to add as feature on controller or patch it up mouse keyboard.

    https://twitter.com/mitsurugi137/sta...SNor6JgdA&s=19
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    Last edited by Zarkovitch; 09-24-2022 at 07:11 AM.

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    EnigmaticDodo's Avatar
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    Maetimoht Berkbraena
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    Arcanist Lv 51
    I simultaneously think this is an exploit and should be fixed, but also do not care in the slightest. This is an extremely niche trick, for a handful of fights that use the eye mech, that only the hardest of try hards will try to do for extra DPS.
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    Aluja Bright
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I mean, this is the equivalent of button mashing.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    At the very least, the OP's post was funny.
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    Daeriion Aeradiir
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    This isn't even exclusive to M+kb. On top of that, I'm pretty sure KB+M players can't even do this if they're on legacy (not 100% sure on this though); this effect is caused by how the player rotation is matched to always face the camera in Standard whenever a camera movement occurs. Gamepad players can do the exact same thing by using standard and wiggling the right control stick left and right rapidly, since it emulates the 'do GCD, camera movement causes character rotation to instantly snap them away from looking at boss' effect.

    Now, it is very cumbersome to do on controller since you need some good finger acrobatics to do it, or some people might dislike playing on standard, but the point is its possible.
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    Bodangar Wirasch
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    Paladin Lv 80
    To My knowledge works with sidestepping & forward running.
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    This isn't an exploit. They're just wiggling their mouse to continuously update the facing of the character, which lowers the chance they'll be facing inward on the frame that the gaze goes off. The way their GCD lines up with the gaze is much more important than the wiggling, as they can still be gazed if it lines up exactly with the gaze going off.
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    Mika Zahard
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    I agree, SE should ban all keyboard/mouse users.


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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    Yes, I know mouse and keyboard is master race on this game and controller is a feature on pc. However, exploits like on p8s wiggling camera on mouse keyboard and be able gcd without having the character looking on the boss is unfair for controller players. I do not know if it was intended to be this way or netcode strikes again. I strongly advice to add as feature on controller or patch it up mouse keyboard.

    https://twitter.com/mitsurugi137/sta...SNor6JgdA&s=19
    "exploit" uh huh yea sure

    You dont need to wiggle that hard btw, just keeping turning a little bit is enough.
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    Tlachtga Ereshkigal
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    This isn't even exclusive to M+kb. On top of that, I'm pretty sure KB+M players can't even do this if they're on legacy (not 100% sure on this though); this effect is caused by how the player rotation is matched to always face the camera in Standard whenever a camera movement occurs. Gamepad players can do the exact same thing by using standard and wiggling the right control stick left and right rapidly, since it emulates the 'do GCD, camera movement causes character rotation to instantly snap them away from looking at boss' effect.

    Now, it is very cumbersome to do on controller since you need some good finger acrobatics to do it, or some people might dislike playing on standard, but the point is its possible.
    you can do it on legacy too, just face camera away from boss, hold down rmb and spam A and D (or whatever you have as strafe left/right).
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