Ideas For a Paladin Rework

[MagiusNecros]

If Paldin DPS is low then the defense must be high and because DPS is low PLD will not be valued. : )

[TabrisOmbrelame]

If Paldin DPS is low then the defense must be high and because DPS is low PLD will not be valued. : )

Paladin's Defense is already high compared to other tanks ! Show me through number why Paladin should have such a massive defense boost allowing them to be almost invincible.

[MagiusNecros]

Paladin's Defense is already high compared to other tanks ! Show me through number why Paladin should have such a massive defense boost allowing them to be almost invincible.

Show me why it shouldn't. I'm bad at maths. I'm not looking for equal mitigation. I'm looking for more mitigation.

Why should GNB have all it's defensives and it's high DPS?

And if PLD defense is so good why are they not chosen to be MT? Let me guess. Damage?

[Mikey_R]

Why should GNB have all it's defensives and it's high DPS?

And if PLD defense is so good why are they not chosen to be MT? Let me guess. Damage?

Just to address these 2 points:

1. All tanks need to be able to tank all content, so they need to have the mitigation kit to be able to do it. This is why every tank has some sort of basic mitigation kit, short cooldown, rampart, 2 minute, invuln, raid mit. With the way most encounters are setup, the only real damaging things are the mechanics and not so much the auto attacks (though they can be more of a nuisance in some fights). Every tank can deal with each mechanic, therefore the last thing to compare tanks with is their damage contribution.

2. They have better tools for and OT, however, the idea of a MT and OT in extreme, savage and ultimate fights really doesn't exist. Both tanks will be tanking the boss at some point and they should be helping each other mitigate damage.

So, to recap, every tank has the tools to effectively mitigate damage in every fight, any extra and it is essentially superfluous. There are also no dedicated MT or OT tanks, all tanks can fill both roles due to tank swaps forcing both tanks to be in the MT position. So, what is left to measure tanks by? Their damage. If damage is close enough, people tend to not care, however, if the discrepancy is too high, and you bring a tank who does significantly less, then you force everyone else to make up that difference. At that point, why not just bring another, high damage tank to make the margin of error bigger?

[Rithy255]

Paladin's Defense is already high compared to other tanks ! Show me through number why Paladin should have such a massive defense boost allowing them to be almost invincible.

Dark knight, Warrior and Gunbreaker in comparison
>All get a extra defensive cooldown.
>They get another support/defensive 60 second cd in aurora, Oblation and Equilibrium
>They all benefit from their own party utility PLD does not.
>PLD's blocks don't work against things such as dots, surpise they have a lot of them this raid tier.
>Unlike warrior PLD doesn't have control over most of its self healing.
>Longest Invul in the game, compared to warrior its a joke.
>Intervention is just a worse version of holy Shelltron, other tanks targeted short cds are the same, or better in warrior/gnb case.

Yeah no PLD is easily the weakest tank defensively bar none. It's a joke compared to the other tanks in raiding content.