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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    So instead of being on a duration...why not just hold your stacks? GNB can do it.

    I hope you know that 2 minute raid buff and decreasing Req effectiveness is also restrictive design, and isn't very engaging. And no one likes Shinten. At all.

    But that's the problem. Overreliance on raid buffs and rDPS.

    And if you want to make PLD a rDPS Tank then it's damage in relation to the other Tanks will always be low.

    But then again maybe you have the dev perspective where everything in PvE is a fixed rotation, super rigid and plays with no brain restrictive kits with no room for optimization.

    I for one dislike raid buffs under a burst window because there isn't much to improve on other then hit all your buttons before going back into your 1-2-3-sometimes 4 for 2 minutes again. Sounds pretty boring to me.
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    Cedric Ironborn
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    It’s no less restrictive than being on a 1 min cooldown; you’d still have to press it on cooldown. And yeah, of course a tank with a raid buff should have lower damage, I didn’t suggest otherwise. There is no world where a job that has a raid buff should do more damage than a job without a raid buff. My goal is not to make PLD meta. My goal is to better adjust it to the 2 min burst design, and these are merely suggestions.

    Also GNB can hold its stacks yes… and a gauge is just a visual representation of that? So far it seems to me the only issue you have is that I suggested a similar gauge to gunbreaker as a representation of atonement stacks. Would you have said the same if I said it should cost 50 gauge? Because at that point it seems to me you don’t like the optics of the design of a gauge like GNB (being that it holds 3 charges) rather than it actually being a bad idea.

    Also I understand not everyone likes the 2 min design philosophy. I’m not trying to say that this is the most fun PLD design because fun is subjective, so it’s not that helpful here. I’m simply trying to offer a PLD rework that better fits with Endwalker’s design philosophy while changing the core rotation as little as possible. The only things my suggestion changes is that each triple atonement is replaced with a Royal Authority combo, FoF is a raid buff, and that atonement becomes an oGCD. Beyond that it’s basically the same. The drop in Req stacks is just because you have to drop a GCD in the rotation anyway, so the design should account for this. You can just adjust potencies to compensate
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