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    Noah Orih
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    Actual Footage of FFXIV Healer Gamplay

    Stumbled across this video of each healer going through their rotation. Figure I'd share it with the class...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRZZQLC3y5s
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    No surprise that Sage has the highest DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    No surprise that Sage has the highest DPS.
    Lowest DPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Lowest DPS
    I've not been active this raid tier tbh so while I'm keeping up with the info, I'm a little curious how it ended up that way. I mean raid buffs on AST and SCH, yeah, but to my knowledge of WHM's DPS tools, it seems it's gaining its advantage exclusively from raid buff windows, being able to not only use PoM during buff windows but also prepare an Afflatus Misery prior to the buff window and squeezing out that much extra damage from it during?
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Lowest DPS
    Obviously the highest there is WHM, since the gameplay is solo target dummy dps without any raid buffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I've not been active this raid tier tbh so while I'm keeping up with the info, I'm a little curious how it ended up that way. I mean raid buffs on AST and SCH, yeah, but to my knowledge of WHM's DPS tools, it seems it's gaining its advantage exclusively from raid buff windows, being able to not only use PoM during buff windows but also prepare an Afflatus Misery prior to the buff window and squeezing out that much extra damage from it during?
    Yeah having misery basically just means you can pool extra glares into every buff window and the focus on 2 minute bursts benefits POM more than anything SGE has, combine that with the free weave windows on glare means that assize is stronger than phlegma and you just get a situation where WHM is just benefiting more from the 2 minute burst
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    WHM using Misery in burst windows doesn't contribute extra to their rdps, instead it contributes to the rdps of the players providing the buffs.

    WHM started off strong this tier because it's popular, easy to play and actually about as good as AST at healing now. Great job to prog with for once. But it's already slipping at the higher end as players acquire more gear and know the fights and is settling in the second last spot. It's simply tuned a little better than Sage, but still doomed to inevitably fall behind as the tier progresses.

    The issue is raid buffs and always has been. Cards and Chain scale with gear and how well your group plays. Glare, Dosis, Misery and Phlegma don't. For some reason SE monitors this with dps and SAM and BLM are both strong and tend to receive buffs if they slip, but they absolutely refuse to buff selfish dps healers as the tier progresses.

    Sage being labeled the "dps healer" and being terrible at dps is rather sad though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Sage being labeled the "dps healer" and being terrible at dps is rather sad though.
    Its a deliberate choise. The moment sage does significantly more dps than other healers. It will become the base healer for all savages unless sage gets such low healing it simply isnt capable of doing even the basic healing requirements.

    Its very unhealthy for balance if sage would do significantly more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    Its a deliberate choise. The moment sage does significantly more dps than other healers. It will become the base healer for all savages unless sage gets such low healing it simply isnt capable of doing even the basic healing requirements.

    Its very unhealthy for balance if sage would do significantly more damage.
    Honestly, I don't get where Sage got the "DPS Healer" label from in the first place.

    When I read the initial explanation how SGE plays I thought "SCH but Disciple Priest kind of", which indirectly means healing from doing damage. I believe this and "doing the most damage" is what many seemed to have mixed up and now we are somehow looking at SGE in disgust for not being the "DPS of healers" some may have envisioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Honestly, I don't get where Sage got the "DPS Healer" label from in the first place.

    When I read the initial explanation how SGE plays I thought "SCH but Disciple Priest kind of", which indirectly means healing from doing damage. I believe this and "doing the most damage" is what many seemed to have mixed up and now we are somehow looking at SGE in disgust for not being the "DPS of healers" some may have envisioned.
    Let's be honest, the people who were expecting "SCH but discipline priest" are also looking at it in disgust, because it certainly isn't that either.
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