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    Quote Originally Posted by KraggyKor View Post
    This! More importantly BLOCK IT IN TOWNS!

    Just look at games like WOW, Rift, LOTRO etc. Towns that are popular are filled with retards jumping about on their oh-so-kewl mounts like demented 5-year-olds on beany-bags.

    We don't need that idiocy in FFXIV thank you.
    I haven't really seen this happen to the extent you're describing in the MMOs you mentioned. Are you sure you aren't stereotyping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radnar View Post
    This really doesn't happen in any of the MMOs you mentioned. I think you're being melodramatic.
    He's not the only one to claim to have seen that behaviour.. Plenty of people worry about it because they hated it from other games. Just because you haven't witnessed it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
    I've seen it many times in WoW, myself. It was quite hard to ignore, as people did it all the time and were jumping unrealistically high as they traveled places. It was the first thing I noticed when I played the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    He's not the only one to claim to have seen that behaviour.. Plenty of people worry about it because they hated it from other games. Just because you haven't witnessed it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
    I've seen it myself many times in WoW, myself. It was quite hard to ignore, as people did it all the time and were jumping unrealistically high as they traveled places. It was the first thing I noticed when I played the game.
    Oh yeah? Interesting evaluation you have there. I play Aion, and other free to play mmo and I don't see it happen at all. I don't understand your fear and hatred if you see one person jumping carefree without a care in the world. Its not like they're forcing you to watch them bounce. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    Oh yeah? Interesting evaluation you have there. I play Aion, and other free to play mmo and I don't see it happen at all. I don't understand your fear and hatred if you see one person jumping carefree without a care in the world. Its not like they're forcing you to watch them bounce. lol
    Wouldn't call it an evaluation, it wasn't even an opinion - it's just an observation. O.o Ok, you never saw it either. Some people see it, others don't. What is your point?
    My point was that saying:
    Quote Originally Posted by Radnar View Post
    This really doesn't happen in any of the MMOs you mentioned. I think you're being melodramatic.
    Is false. (Not to mention rude. :x - but he/she corrected him/herself in an edit.)

    I didn't say anything about a fear or hatred in my post. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I didn't say anything about "one person" either. It was many. I logged into the game and saw people hopping everywhere. Do you have a problem with me because of that? o.O
    I also never said anything about being forced into anything. I logged in, I saw, I played a bit, I quit.
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    I for one, am glad the Developers have asked for our opinions.

    I have to say reading thru the replies after Okipiut posted have been interesting. I also have to say though that I would love jump to be for exploration purposes only. Even with cooldown, I don't want to see this added to combat. The thought of being able to get additional achievements exploring though....awesome!

    TYVM for asking Okipiut!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    Wouldn't call it an evaluation, it's just what I witnessed. O.o Ok, you never saw it either. Some people see it, others don't. What is your point? I didn't say anything about a fear or hatred in my post. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I didn't say anything about "one person" either. It was many. I logged into the game and saw people hopping everywhere. Do you have a problem with me because of that? o.O
    I also never said anything about being forced into anything. I logged in, I saw, I played a bit, I quit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    He's not the only one to claim to have seen that behaviour.. Plenty of people worry about it because they hated it from other games. Just because you haven't witnessed it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
    I've seen it many times in WoW, myself. It was quite hard to ignore, as people did it all the time and were jumping unrealistically high as they traveled places. It was the first thing I noticed when I played the game.
    Seems like an evaluation to me. You only played said games for a bit and then quit. Your post is jam packed with contradictions, and invalid assumptions. Yes you said others hated it, but never actually said YOU hated it, but your choice of words does mean it because you claim you saw it often and it forces you to quit... That was my point, and you just help proven it more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    Seems like an evaluation to me. You only played said games for a bit and then quit. Your post is jam packed with contradictions, and invalid assumptions. Yes you said others hated it, but never actually said YOU hated it, but your choice of words does mean it because you claim you saw it often and it forces you to quit... That was my point, and you just help proven it more.
    I'd say you misinterpreted then, and you're trying to put words in my mouth.
    1. "Game," not "games." I said it was WoW.
    2. My post contains no contradictions, or assumptions, only observations. I try hard never to assume things.
    3. I've seen others say they hated it. That's called an observation. It says nothing about myself, and I did not state an opinion on the matter.
    4. You are assuming that I quit because I saw people jumping? I stated that I played for a while and then I quit. I didn't say why.

    You sir, are confused, and like to make assumptions.
    I will keep correcting you as long as you keep trying to put words in my mouth and assuming I mean/said things I didn't.
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    Last edited by Nabiri; 07-06-2012 at 09:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabiri View Post
    I'd say you misinterpreted then, and you're trying to put words in my mouth.
    1. "Game," not "games." I said it was WoW.
    2. My post contains no contradictions, or assumptions, only observations. I try hard never to assume things.
    3. I've seen others say they hated it. That's called an observation. It says nothing about myself, and I did not state an opinion on the matter.
    4. You are assuming that I quit because I saw people jumping? I started that I played for a while and then I quit. I didn't say why.

    You sir, are confused, and like to make assumptions.
    Oh wow don't bait and switch. What is the point of defending that other individual in your earlier post then? You can't take back what I quoted and forget about it. You said they hated it in OTHER GAMES. If you can't see your own contradictions, and assumptions for your so called observations then you sir/miss shouldn't talk for others.
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    The only purpose jump should have in the game is in the environment. Oh hello 2ft ledge / ramp / step / rock i could easily step or jump over you but i cannot and must travel the 40 hour journey way around.

    The biggest thing that drew me to FFXI was the medieval feel the game gave me with that touch of fantasy in the right areas. Iv played alot of other MMOs and there is just too much fantasy and no touch of a potential reality. I can see the same in FFXIV with the crafting, the lore and the mechanics of things are done. Just make the jump that bit realistic. Give it a cool down that is fine. Let us jump on mounts but make it realistic. I like the idea of being able to jump / fall off ledges / bridges / cliffs but again make it that bit more realistic. Iv fallen easily 300ft in places in Wow and only had small bits of health taken off me. Make it so we can get off bridges and different levels within reason but the thoughts of climbing up a mountain like there was in Attowa Chasm in 11 and then being able to simply jump off is rediculous.
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