Gamerescape Interview: Summons, Chocobos, Train Tracks and Rocks

[Nox]

You know I keep reading about people being concerned with latency issues on 2.0 and they use that assumption as an excuse to not have jump play any part in battle. As I mentioned earlier, a big part of the reasoning behind 2.0 is to fix the retarded latency issues this game currently faces. It's almost as If people expect latency issues come 2.0. In my opinion if latency issues still exist come 2.0 then 2.0 will have basically failed to fix one of the main issues in this game.

[Nabiri]

You know I keep reading about people being concerned with latency issues on 2.0 and they use that assumption as an excuse to not have jump play any part in battle. As I mentioned earlier, a big part of the reasoning behind 2.0 is to fix the retarded latency issues this game currently faces. It's almost as If people expect latency issues come 2.0. In my opinion if latency issues still exist come 2.0 then 2.0 will have basically failed to fix one of the main issues in this game.

Yes, it's not good to assume the game will still be so broken. Okipuit did ask us if we would like it to be used in combat so perhaps that means SE feels they would be able to do so effectively with 2.0.

It wouldn't be good to assume it would be perfect either of course. :3

[Raistlin]

i think too many people will try 2.0 beta expecting a release... i cant wait until people start to post: "so many bugss!! unplayableee!"

[Nox]

Yes, it's not good to assume the game will still be so broken. Okipuit did ask us if we would like it to be used in combat so perhaps that means SE feels they would be able to do so effectively with 2.0.

Of course it wouldn't be good to assume it would be perfect either of course. :3

SE wants this game to succeed. Furthermore, apparently pvp is making it into the game at the launch of 2.0.

By those two factors alone I am expecting latency on FFXIV 2.0 to be up to par to the standards of today's MMO's. Otherwise as I said 2.0 will be an epic fail. Even worse is the thought of pvp being broken because of latency issues still Being part of the game experience.

[Elexia]

The ironic thing is, MMOs out today have their own issues which makes PvP unplayable not limited to and including Latency issues depending on vs count.

[Majidah]

I think people need to be less concerned with latency issues. SE should work that out.
Players should just go and say hey yeah, it'd be cool to dodge stuff in battle by jumping.

Then SE should go and think how to make that work.

People here need to stop putting themselves in the place of game developers and start acting like players.

[Alhanelem]

How would it annoy you sooooo much that simply looking away or going off to do something else wouldn't fix it?

It doesn't personally bother me that much, and to an extent I agree with "just ignore them." But it does bother some people, and I don't think zero consideration should be given to people who are upset or made uncomfortable by something. I also gave you good reasons unrelated to whiny complaining. It prevents abuse and creates a sense of strategy when you have to make a concious decision to jump in order to get a desired result, instead of just spamming it and getting "lucky." It's also not realistic to immediately bounce into the air again after making a big jump (the kind of jump that would be big enough to have any useful effect), unless you're on a trampoline. There's going to be at least 1 second or so between jumps. What part of "A few seconds" aren't you understanding? It's barely limiting at all. It's just enough to where it reduces silly abuses, while still allowing you pretty much total freedom. It really feels like you're arguing with me for the sake of doing so.

Again, who says that being able to jump in combat or jump being useful in combat automagically = completely avoiding damage? Did you not read the whole post you quoted from?

I named no specifics as to exactly what effects were being given by jump, but I can't imagine jump reducing damage from something. You'd either jump and not get struck, or not jump/jump too late and get struck. I don't really see any room for an in-between.

I'll ask again: objectively, how does unrestricted jumping and/or jumping in combat break the game? And don't worry about animation blending; they're professional designers, artists, and programmers... not high school students.

I already, objectively, gave you good reasons why totally unrestricted jumping is not a great idea. However, once again, the restriction I described is EXTREMELY minimal and should not interfere with your apparently god given right to jump all you want. I'm extremely puzzled by your agression towards me in this thread.

Animation blending is always an issue, whether oyu're a "high school student" or a professional. Some things just aren't physically possible and/or do not make logical sense when implemented.

The funny part is I'm on your side in thinking it's silly for people to be against jumping because people will bunny hop. But I'm showing sensitivity to their position, while you're basically just saying "screw them." You're fueling their fire, while I'm offering a reasonable compromise that gives most people what they want and doesn't give what some people don't want.

[Zyph]

Animation blending is always an issue, whether oyu're a "high school student" or a professional. Some things just aren't physically possible and/or do not make logical sense when implemented.

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[Ahntone]

2.0 isn't some magic dust that is going to be sprinkled on the game to make it flawless. You should always assume that there will be some latency in the game because realistically there will be. Do you really want something else mucking up combat? I don't.

I'm still of the mind that jumping should be limiting to getting around terrain and cosmetic purposes (read: like emotes) and leave it out of combat entirely. How about limiting jumping to passive mode only? I think that would be a good way to handle it.

[Nox]

2.0 isn't some magic dust that is going to be sprinkled on the game to make it flawless. You should always assume that there will be some latency in the game because realistically there will be. Do you really want something else mucking up combat? I don't.

I'm still of the mind that jumping should be limiting to getting around terrain and cosmetic purposes (read: like emotes) and leave it out of combat entirely. How about limiting jumping to passive mode only? I think that would be a good way to handle it.

I'm not expecting 2.0 to be some "magic dust". However, I am expecting it to considerably improve upon every single aspect of the current game. One of those things is Latency issues which as I've mentioned, is one of the bigger issues with this game. it makes little sense for SE to revamp the entire game and then not fix one of the most annoying issues with this game since launch.