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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Balmung
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    Blue Mage Lv 80

    p7s is the worst fight i've ever done in this game

    it's not a hard fight but the way it's laid out is just irritating. i get irritated/bothered sometimes by content in this game, at most i will likely discuss it with my friends. rarely do i come to a forum or something like this. p7s is just that bad.

    so here you have this 11:10 minute long fight

    the first 7-8 minutes are just trivially easy mechanics, like after seeing them a few times you'd have to close your eyes to mess up, it's that easy

    but then the last 3 minutes are when the tough mechanics actually kick in. imagine that. 7-8 minutes of braindead monotony and you mess up on purgation (which is a solid minute and a half or so of running back and forth between platforms, stacking/spreading accordingly) before the harvest mechanics, really the only difficult mechanics of the fight.

    it's about as bad as e7s was in terms of just it being insultingly braindead and easy
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    Player SeiyaSoiya's Avatar
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    Hariette Reina-cuento
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    Marilith
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    thank the cancerous streamers and ecelebs like arthars and xeno and mr happy for suggesting that if they put phase 3 of dragonsong's reprise at the end of the fight, that it would become the hardest phase and fight in the entire game
    devs listened.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    At times it honestly doesnt feel like a savage fight. It even shows the stack markers. There is so much dead waiting on platforms to appear. Harvests are only hard if you have trouble seeing what egg spawns where, the positioning isnt particularly tight and death's harvest can just be cheesed with double tank invuln. Getting in position can be a bit awkward because you cant cross the middle but that's about it. As drk I can just take the stack tankbuster alone without invuln, as far as I know people did that week 1 already which is just wild.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    thank the cancerous streamers and ecelebs like arthars and xeno and mr happy for suggesting that if they put phase 3 of dragonsong's reprise at the end of the fight, that it would become the hardest phase and fight in the entire game
    devs listened.
    If streamers had the influence you think they have, the game would look vastly different. Please stop this useless hate.
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    Petite Poutine
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    thank the cancerous streamers and ecelebs like arthars and xeno and mr happy for suggesting that if they put phase 3 of dragonsong's reprise at the end of the fight, that it would become the hardest phase and fight in the entire game
    devs listened.
    But Purg and JP Harvests aren't even difficult. Find your spot through easy deduction and you're home free. My guess is that boredom is an actual mechanic and comes in full force upon reaching Famine.


    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    What's wrong with opposite war?

    I tried inumaru war once and the healers died when they both got minotaur with a short tether.
    If one person messes up "All Far War" the run is ruined. Just do "All Close JP WAR" (Inumaru) so only people who mess up get the shaft they deserve.
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Petite View Post
    If one person messes up "All Far War" the run is ruined. Just do "All Close JP WAR" (Inumaru) so only people who mess up get the shaft they deserve.
    Inumaru WAR is a poor strat. Just waste 20% mit on something that should be easy. There are a few variations of oppo War that are quite safe that most people haven't even picked up on.

    PF strats for both 6 and 7 are just bad this tier. Limit cut is convoluted, No-Uptime-Agonies, Cachexia markers are unnecessarily risky, people still refusing to tank lb Cachexia II, no mit coordinations for Purgation, Inumaru War and so on. Makes me glad to have a static to run with.
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    X'toldha Bihlr
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    Phantom
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    Archer Lv 3
    The only poor strat here is opposite WAR. It's lazy and only makes it end more dangerous to survive if one is not in the correct position either on the bridge for Cow or Mino bait close to it.

    Waste 20% mit? You do know there's literally no notable mechanics after war right? In reclear the boss dies at that point.
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    thank the cancerous streamers and ecelebs like arthars and xeno and mr happy for suggesting that if they put phase 3 of dragonsong's reprise at the end of the fight, that it would become the hardest phase and fight in the entire game
    devs listened.
    The idea that a fight should escalate in challenge as it goes on is correct though, or you should at least make sure the last thing you do is the hardest thing if you want a fight with more ups and downs.
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    How do you mess up purgation thought?

    Its just TH stack.. or DPS stack.. its completely braindead, same with the harvests.

    P8 however.. Oh lordy.. being a healer main is a tough time when 4 autos and the tank is dead.
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    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Kazek Amilia
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    Twintania
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    thank the cancerous streamers and ecelebs like arthars and xeno and mr happy for suggesting that if they put phase 3 of dragonsong's reprise at the end of the fight, that it would become the hardest phase and fight in the entire game
    devs listened.
    What? 3rd fights being absurdly backloaded have been a thing for a long time. Each of the ShB third fight had this issue, how does it have anything to do with streamers?
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Phoenix
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    Botanist Lv 100
    p6s and p7s are both so much wasted potential, p7s 90% mechanics are either extreme level difficulty or lower .... they didnt even bother to make punch attack harder than normal (they forgot about e4s i guess) not to mention even harvests only difficulty is people not knowing where to go even on week 4 or use cursed strats like oppo war. Both fights are almost completly fixed and the only saving grace is good first turn p5s.
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