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  1. #1
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    niwaar's Avatar
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    Kaelie Niie
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pictomancer Lv 100

    QoL Roulette Changes Needed!

    So some of the largest new and returning player QoL needed is changes to how Roulettes are separated.

    Playing through from ARR to Shadowbringers thus far and hitting major queuetime hurdles once out of the "Leveling" roulette.

    Why is the Main Scenario roulette limited to the final 3 ARR/2.0 duties? Why does this not include the final dungeon of each expansion and their end trial? As these are required of the MSQ I would ask why they are not included? Is it only because the 3 ARR duties have unskippable cutscenes? I would argue that HW's cap dungeons, Aetherochemical Research Facility has a story cutscene in the middle of its final encounter, while not as long as the ARR, its still there. This dungeon also has no intrinsic value as there are no drops (not even the accessory drops that the cap dungeon has been given since Stormblood).

    Queue times for these dungeons and end expansion trials have gotten to be 30-45minutes long and could easily be pushed down by including them in the MSQ roulette and benefit from the MSQ's most generous reward structure. If they arent to be added, please consider either creating a new roulette for these with a reward that can not be overlooked, or at the very least increase the 50/60/70/80 reward to be something that is more compenserate in its need for those playing the MSQ.

    I realize that with Duty support hitting these dungeons eventually, this is moot. But as Aetherochemical and Baelar's Wall aren't there with Duty Support yet, and by that logic Ala Mihgo, Ghimlyt Dark, Amaurot and Paglthan won't be for years to come, there needs to be some addressing to push the queuetimes for these specifically story dungeons down. If for no othe reason to keep new players playing.
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    I'd rather be in Zitah

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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    And as always, if queue time is long, play a tank or a healer and dont forget to turn on all languages.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    It probly wouldnt hurt to update the reward for the x0 roulette. As it stands, each of these is covered by 2 roulettes. The cap dungeons are on the x0, any trials involved are on the trial roulette, and all of the above are also covered via mentor roulette. MSQ would probly be a hard sell because those are the unskippable dungeons. And while ARF does have that one scene mid-fight, said scene is skippable. When in doubt, you can always put up a Partyfinder group looking for help. I know a lot of people love to re-run some of these specific instances, especially if theyre getting a new player bonus along the way. And it only takes one tank or healer slot filled to cut an expected wait time(regardless of time of day) drastically. Often down to no wait at all.

    As to your final point, theres good news. The "Duty Support" system was actually introduced in Shadowbringers(then known as the Trust System), so Amaurot and Paglthan are already covered(as are/will be their EW counterparts). Theyve been expanding Duty Support each patch during the EW cycle, with the goal being to complete the process by 6.5. If my mental count is right, they have 14 to go and 3 patches to do so in. This last patch saw them add 5, so i wouldnt be surprised if that was the target number per patch until the work is done. So in the next year and change this will be taken care of.
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    Chymea Sum
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    MSQ roulette used to just be 2, eight man dungeons. They had to be separated out in order for new players to not have to wait for 7 other players to choose to do the one they needed.

    They didn't get pulled into the 50/60/70/80 dungeon roulette and to trials because of the numerous lengthy story relevant cutscenes in the middle of the content that have been made unskippable to avoid new players feeling pressured to skip or fear being kicked or missing fights. People would quit those if they came up in the other roulettes to get the faster ones. So they have them split off and have extra rewards for the extra time caused by the unskippable cutscenes.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    No one would just be "waiting in the queue" for any content. Do FATEs, do quests, do crafting, gather on your island, watch Netflix, etc. If anyone is literally sitting and staring at a screen for 20 minutes waiting for a queue to pop, they are playing this game wrong. Duty Finder will do the job of finding players. Fill that time with something else until it pops.

    Also, anything that utilizes the Duty Support / Trust System would be faster than waiting in the queue for other players. While I can't speak specifically of the Duty Support System, I did extensively use the Trust System in ShB and EW. Tanks and healers aside, it is by far faster to run as a DPS in the Trust System. There is no DPS queue. Exp bonuses are the same. So if you have exhausted roulettes that are worth doing for exp, Trust (and presumably Duty Support) is the way to go to avoid queues as a DPS if you are doing highest-level dungeon for exp.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Yea the 50-80 roulette doesnt exactly have enticing rewards for me. I'm usually just in for the easy weekly tomestone cap.
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    You know, it might be interesting to add HW's final dungeon to MSQ roulette and make the big pre-boss cutscene unskippable. Also IIRC there's a cutscene in the middle of the boss before they form ascian prime? I can't recall if that was a thing, but I do remember not getting to watch the pre-fight cutscene because my party instantly pulled. So if, cutscene included, it came at all close to being the length of the Ultima weapon fight or castrum, that might be a nice thing. But I haven't run it in a while, so it might just be too short overall even with cutscene?
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