Current problems with machinist and being constructive.

[NekoMataMata]

That wouldn’t work in practice because utility isn’t equal in any way, you can’t compare natures minne to verraise

This also doesn’t account for whether damage up buffs count as utility because different people have different views on that

Their suggestion doesn't account for any of the specifics at all. The numbers have to be balanced manually.

Besides that we have other classes that are already balanced around having what utility they bring. The issue here is clearly that SE is playing favorites with classes and they refuse to balance certain classes to allow them to remain viable within endgame raiding.

[Supersnow845]

Their suggestion doesn't account for any of the specifics at all. The numbers have to be balanced manually.

Besides that we have other classes that are already balanced around having what utility they bring. The issue here is clearly that SE is playing favorites with classes and they refuse to balance certain classes to allow them to remain viable within endgame raiding.

I’m not saying the balance currently is anywhere near good but the premise of “you have x thing so you lose some damage” doesn’t really work when some things in the same category are objectively better than those in the same category