Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
Once again... none of this is a reason against buffing Machinist.
It does not need to be buffed to SAM/BLM levels! It just needs to be able to compete with BRD and DNC.
Buffing Machinist by a couple percent to bring it up to a level where you are not so severely punished for playing MCH will not suddenly invalidate BRD and DNC.
You keep arguing in extremes, there's tons of middle ground.
I never said you couldn't buff Machinist though. Frankly, it does still need one regardless of what they do.

My whole response was saying that buffing it won't fix the issue because even with a slight increase, it'll still do less than Bard and Dancer at the high end. The way SE has set up the Prange, a selfish job in that role simply cannot work. Bard and Dancer provide too much rDPS relative to their aDPS for Machinist to ever come out ahead outside of average PG groups. They need to either rework Bard and Dancer to have more personal damage ala what they did with Ninja or scrap the whole selfish DPS concept for Machinist and let the Prange be support DPS again. No amount of buffing Machinist will fix the root problem.