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  1. #21
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    Silly_Rabbit's Avatar
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    Silly Rabbit
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    Ninja Lv 90
    1. Get rid of AQ and give us sniper skills instead to spend battery on.
    2. Give Hypercharge 5 stacks.
    3. Reduce flamethrower duration to 5 sec and make me able to move at 50% speed. Same overall potency.
    4. Add aoe drone with battery cost.
    5. Give us 1 additional party defensive cd and one personal.
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  2. #22
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    Ameela's Avatar
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AirlineFood View Post
    1. I'm over the selfish dps job identity our job identity is that we have a gun, give us a raid buff, Wildfire is in a very bad spot just make it work like mug where it applies a debuff to the boss its already on a 120s cooldown per ur 2min burst window agenda.
    I'm honestly quite surprised that a job so heavily focused on using different gadgets and gizmos doesn't have something that also buffs and supports the party.
    Back in HW you'd use the turrets for MP and TP regen like Bard's songs - stuff like that should be brought back but make it a cooler gadget that gives the party more direct hit or something (honestly surprised there aren't any skills that buff DHit, so it'd be a good opportunity to introduce one so it doesn't conflict with Battle Litany)
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  3. #23
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    L'tanan Tyanu
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Don't have anything to say about MCH that other people haven't but having Auto Crossbow at 50 instead of 52 would be really nice

    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    I'm honestly quite surprised that a job so heavily focused on using different gadgets and gizmos doesn't have something that also buffs and supports the party.
    Back in HW you'd use the turrets for MP and TP regen like Bard's songs - stuff like that should be brought back but make it a cooler gadget that gives the party more direct hit or something (honestly surprised there aren't any skills that buff DHit, so it'd be a good opportunity to introduce one so it doesn't conflict with Battle Litany)
    BRD's Battle Voice and Army's Paeon do
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    Last edited by baklava151; 09-20-2022 at 07:37 AM.

  4. #24
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    DixieBellOCE's Avatar
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Step 1: Realize MCH is a "selfish" DPS and adjust them accordingly akin to SAM / BLM. They offer next to no group utility. MCH should be near them in DPS.

    Step 2: Wildfire is extremely underwhelming for it's long CD and large setup. Needs to guarantee DH/Crit

    Step 3: There's no logical reason that Auto Crossbow doesn't shorten the CD of Ricochet. At all. Heat blast lowers the ST equivalent, Auto Crossbow should shorten it's aoe equivalent.

    Step 4: Flamethrower is extremely underwhelming for it's long CD.
    Ideas for Improvement:
    A) Make it a heat spender with a high enough potency to justify itself. You could have one segment to Flamethrower (higher potency), one segment to heat blast (lower potency).
    or
    B) Make it a burn DoT
    Just make it ignite your bioblaster and deal DoT ontop of the channeled damage... atleast then MCH might have AOE that isnt just 1 button spam.. smh
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  5. #25
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Step 1: Realize MCH is a "selfish" DPS and adjust them accordingly akin to SAM / BLM. They offer next to no group utility. MCH should be near them in DPS.
    I know some people are iffy about some sort of "complexity tax" (for the harder end), but if as it is today, MCH would be bumped to BLM levels of rdps, it would literally seize DNC and BRD for the phys ranged spot, and people would certainly prefer a full mobile ranged dps with a braindead rotation for the flex spot.

    For that to happen, MCH would need a bit more meat and skill ceiling to their gameplay. Well, they have an opportunity in 7.0...
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  6. #26
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    Ameela's Avatar
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I know some people are iffy about some sort of "complexity tax" (for the harder end), but if as it is today, MCH would be bumped to BLM levels of rdps, it would literally seize DNC and BRD for the phys ranged spot, and people would certainly prefer a full mobile ranged dps with a braindead rotation for the flex spot.

    For that to happen, MCH would need a bit more meat and skill ceiling to their gameplay. Well, they have an opportunity in 7.0...
    Just bring back HW Gauss Barrel.
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  7. #27
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    Just bring back HW Gauss Barrel.
    You gotta be kidding! If HW Gauss Barrel was the same from SB (I didn't play MCH before that) that was the most pointless job mechanic ever. You had to re-equip GB just to access your normal things, it wasn't even like an exciting button to press like Kaiten (rip) or Reassemble.
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  8. #28
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    Ameela's Avatar
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    You gotta be kidding! If HW Gauss Barrel was the same from SB (I didn't play MCH before that) that was the most pointless job mechanic ever. You had to re-equip GB just to access your normal things, it wasn't even like an exciting button to press like Kaiten (rip) or Reassemble.
    Oh nah HW Gauss Barrel gave you more damage at the cost of forcing you to cast when you didn't have ammo.
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  9. #29
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I just don't understand how Bioblaster isn't an upgrade from Flamethrower.
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  10. #30
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I just don't understand how Bioblaster isn't an upgrade from Flamethrower.
    Or just.. Have Bio ignite into a second dot when hit by flamethrower..

    The real issues with the job are its damage vs utility.

    You get a single raidwide defensive
    Dancer gets a raidwide defensive, party buffs, single target buff(dance) and a 20% crit/DH buff for dance partner and an aoe heal.
    Bard gets a raidwide defensive, party buffs (Songs), Additional raid utility for tanks (20% bonus healing that pairs INSANELY well with SCH shield deployment) AND a 20% DH buff for the entire party.

    MCH:
    Tactician

    Dancer:
    Shield Samba
    Technical Finish
    Standard Finish
    Devilment
    Curing Waltz

    Bard:
    Troubador
    Songs (Wanderer's Minuet, Mage's Ballad, Army's Paeon)
    The Wardens Paeon
    Battle Voice
    Radiant Finale

    See a trend here?

    Each ranged job gets ~5 party utility abilities, where as MCH just gets a single defensive.
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    Last edited by DixieBellOCE; 09-20-2022 at 12:58 PM.

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