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  1. #1
    Player
    AnnRam's Avatar
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    Character
    Mint Goh
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100

    Get rid of SAM Limit break gimmick already (FL)

    The only reason people pick SAM in frontlines it's to piss off everyone with their Chiten+LB.

    I can't see between 20 players in the screen even with most of the visual effects off the SAM who comes with chiten up since you have no indicators, no visual animation, chiten blinks for 1 second when they cast it and that's all then you have to target the sam and follow the chiten buff until expires , this meanwhile I've to deal with another 10 players around me or probably another 2-3 SAM's from both alliances.

    I'm not talking about the OBVIOUS SAM player who dives 1vs24 thinking he will wipe an entire alliance with his gimmick playstyle.

    My point ; is not fair to instantly DIE and lose max BH because one of my AOES in BETWEEN so many people poked one of the 5 SAMS with chiten and then get deleted instantly without any counter play.

    MCH Chain Saw got nerfed to 95% of total HP, so if don't see why Chiten+LB would leave the target in 1 hp at least.
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    I agree with you. Dunno what class you are playing but I play ninja and this Is how i deal with them:
    - Usually NEVER use Aoe (difficult to do with a job focused in aoes)
    - Usually NEVER Attack SAMs, or leave em last. Since you cant know if they have LB up you'll Just cant Attack em when they have chiten up; It Is virtually an invincible button.
    - Try to be at full health if you Plan to use an Aoe and/or if you get the death debuff POP A SHIELD. Sam's LB Will detract your 100% hp from your Life+barrier so you Will not die.

    Last: Play ninja since It Is the only job that can consinstently get kills in this stupid mode where everyone and their grandma has tons of DMG reduction and almost infinite heals. /s
    (Also nin has 2 shields)

    Still hate sam, even if i can deal with them
    (4)

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    nighttimebunny's Avatar
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    Winter Stardust
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    I dislike SAMs because you can accidentally hit them with your aoe and then you’re screwed :x
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    Garten's Avatar
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    Garten Rei
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Fun fact, if you kill a Sam while he LB you you die at the same time. (Hapoened to me at least 3 times)
    (6)

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    Blinding_Awesomeness's Avatar
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    Character
    Eliza Aldrich
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Garten View Post
    Fun fact, if you kill a Sam while he LB you you die at the same time.
    It's infuriating that this is a thing, which means you can't even gamble that you can kill the SAM before the LB goes off. You're supposed to bind them first, but farewell if you're a job without bind.

    Another point of frustration is that you can get Kuzushi even if you (instant) attacked before they had Chiten up, as long as the server recognizes Chiten was activated before your attack connects.

    I know SAMs complain server issues make their job "unplayable" (have a SAM-maining friend), but boy, when it works . . .
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Leaving my SAM in Kugane
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    Character
    Raansu Omiyari
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    AoE's definitely shouldn't trigger it for sure.
    (10)

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    Valence's Avatar
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    Character
    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    AoE's definitely shouldn't trigger it for sure.
    So the guy gave me shit for 20+ pages just for the sake of being contrarian, and only now finally admits that AoE is a problem? Who hurt you?
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    So the guy gave me shit for 20+ pages just for the sake of being contrarian, and only now finally admits that AoE is a problem? Who hurt you?
    Me, probably.
    (1)
    Last edited by Towa-Musa; 03-26-2023 at 12:16 PM.

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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    So the guy gave me shit for 20+ pages just for the sake of being contrarian, and only now finally admits that AoE is a problem? Who hurt you?
    He finally got killed by it after a year of sitting behind his entire FL alliance.
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    Give me more Keeper of the Moon rep!

  10. #10
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    So the guy gave me shit for 20+ pages just for the sake of being contrarian, and only now finally admits that AoE is a problem? Who hurt you?
    I have always agree that aoe shouldn't trigger it. Doesn't mean I agree that the LB is a problem overall. Its still easy to avoid and pretty much all of you here are terrible at pvp.
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