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  1. #71
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    I mean se went, Sorry, cant edit
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  2. #72
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    I think most people would agree with both of these.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    It wasn't what people asked for it was a temporary measure to keep the player base from sliding back into thirty-minute queue during primetime. You keep citing how it's going to affect conflict if frontline receives any changes. That is why this was brought up. Yes, people will complain when they see things that don't make sense. Why are you afraid of change? Change is an essential part of life. If nothing ever changed you wouldn't be here on the internet complaining about change. Imagine never changing anything from the first time you did something. You would never improve. Are all changes good? No, they aren't but nobody can see the future and know whether a change will be good or not. Trying to shout down people you don't agree with using points that have nothing to do with the conversation seems to be your modus operandi.
    …….now when did I ever said I wanted to shut someone down? I’m saying be careful what you ask for….
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    …….now when did I ever said I wanted to shut someone down? I’m saying be careful what you ask for….
    You did a really bad job of communicating this opinion though I doubt it was actually your intent and not just an attempt to save face. Change is good and can always be reverted. Look at black mage. It's been pushed down and up several times already.
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  5. #75
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    Well, if they do make changes for the jobs due for FL, then yes it’ll change CC. In the end, it changes nothing. Why? Because the players will be other jobs that’ll take its place due to its tool set. Once it becomes bland, then you create another problem.

    If they do make changes to SAM’s LB, while thinking about it. They’ll just 1-hit KO if chiten the target, while ppl line in sight while chiten is proc’d on them gets a 95% HP loss. Any further than that will just kill its identity. Yes, it’ll change the way it’s played in CC, nothing will change in FL even with the change. The other is more dmg reduction across the board on all classes.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    You did a really bad job of communicating this opinion though I doubt it was actually your intent and not just an attempt to save face. Change is good and can always be reverted. Look at black mage. It's been pushed down and up several times already.
    It’s not my job to read your mind and reply in the way you like.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    ……..just stop. Many already know why the reductions were added and ppl complain about that after the change. Ppl got what they ask for and they hate it. Now ppl want to change SAM’s and PLD’s LB because it drives them nuts on FL, it’s the same thing. Again, I know what’s going to happen. YOU WILL COMPLAIN that the job isn’t what it used to be, but it’ll be too late. You got what you ask for.
    Ever considered that the people complaining before and after might not be the same people?
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    Well, if they do make changes for the jobs due for FL, then yes it’ll change CC. In the end, it changes nothing. Why? Because the players will be other jobs that’ll take its place due to its tool set. Once it becomes bland, then you create another problem.

    If they do make changes to SAM’s LB, while thinking about it. They’ll just 1-hit KO if chiten the target, while ppl line in sight while chiten is proc’d on them gets a 95% HP loss. Any further than that will just kill its identity. Yes, it’ll change the way it’s played in CC, nothing will change in FL even with the change. The other is more dmg reduction across the board on all classes.
    You don't have to read my mind just read what you quote. --AGAIN FOR OSMOND IN THE BACK-- Conflict and Frontline are not the same thing and have different balance pools. You don't know what will change anything without seeing it.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
    Ever considered that the people complaining before and after might not be the same people?
    Well, we are in an age where ppl can make multiple accounts with different names, age, gender, etc. so who knows..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    You don't have to read my mind just read what you quote. --AGAIN FOR OSMOND IN THE BACK-- Conflict and Frontline are not the same thing and have different balance pools. You don't know what will change anything without seeing it.
    It’s just a thought. Probably considering ideas on how to change job’s abilities for PvP that affects both FL and CC. May announce it on the live letter this week….or was it next, or maybe 6.3.
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