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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Personally give a res as a role action with a 2 minutes CD on casters. Odds are we're getting a 4th Caster and I'm gonna be severely disappointed if they split "res caster" and "pure caster" because it'll default that RDM/SMN will never be performing like other casters.
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    Saber Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Personally give a res as a role action with a 2 minutes CD on casters. Odds are we're getting a 4th Caster and I'm gonna be severely disappointed if they split "res caster" and "pure caster" because it'll default that RDM/SMN will never be performing like other casters.
    You know that's what SE's gonna do, because SE is obsessed with this idea of splitting roles into subroles and subroles into subsubroles.
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    Personally give a res as a role action with a 2 minutes CD on casters. Odds are we're getting a 4th Caster and I'm gonna be severely disappointed if they split "res caster" and "pure caster" because it'll default that RDM/SMN will never be performing like other casters.
    Why should res tax exist? Why should any DPS tax exist outside raid damage buffs?
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Why should res tax exist? Why should any DPS tax exist outside raid damage buffs?
    To justify the prejudice they treat some jobs with while propping up certain jobs within the same role to keep them above everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Why should res tax exist? Why should any DPS tax exist outside raid damage buffs?
    Why should Red mage and summoner perform the same as black mage and bring objectively pretty good utility.
    You just look at damage numbers and don't actually think about how it would bring no reason to play black mage over the other casters.

    You either remove all utility or make BLM have the same sort of utility, which in my opinion brings down job diversity more then it already has been, which if thats your goal? sure.
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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Why should Red mage and summoner perform the same as black mage and bring objectively pretty good utility.
    You just look at damage numbers and don't actually think about how it would bring no reason to play black mage over the other casters.

    You either remove all utility or make BLM have the same sort of utility, which in my opinion brings down job diversity more then it already has been, which if thats your goal? sure.
    I'd rather BLM be top DPS in the game with no raid damage buffs and a job identity of low mobility hard casting. No raise. I do not think SMN and RDM should have damage tax for raise, but I do think SMN and RDM should have raid damage buffs and thus lower aDPS than BLM, and that all jobs be within 1% rDPS between each other. That way BLMs can feel good about playing their no raise playstyle and you can feel good playing your raise playstyle despite having less personal DPS and everyone be viable because you're all contributing to the same amount of total DPS. You're already losing DPS by having to raise as a SMN or RDM anyway, therefore no further penalty is needed.
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