Bizarre burnout

[Cach]

I too miss old 2.0 SMN, but the dev team has given up in the idea of pet classes. I now fear for BRD's dot skills, lol.

The shortcomings of MCH are very real and very measurable, and the way SE is handling it does not exactly make me hopeful. Even if you can still persist and play MCH (or whatever job seems to be "in trouble" at the time) these facts do not go away. People trying to rationalize "it's not the game's fault, it's muh negativity's fault" are as cute as ever.

I just finished grinding out another Zodiac weapon and it's pretty pointless to get on the gear treadmill until a .4 patch so I'm thinking that another break might be soon. Or maybe I'll return to pvp to get the mount, I also been wanting to replay CP2077 or perhaps I'll tag along with my friends who want to give New World another shot.

Point is, it's gonna be okay man, just do whatever.

[Hurlstone]

I feel burnout is unique to every player. Some people not seem to feel it, and others get very hard by it. I myself am likely building up to it a little, but stressful things are happening/coming up in real life so I am using FFXIV as a chill/escape point for as long as I can haha. Do not be afraid to take a brake, you are not giving up on the game if you do not log in for a few days, weeks or even months. Playing other games will help ease the burnout and it helps that unlike other games FFXIV lacks the big FOMO elements that other live service games insist on having nowadays. If you want to still play the game then it could help to do something new, for example a new combat roll (Such as Tank) or try levelling a gathering class. I myself am taking a bit of a levelling break and am now on a hunt to collect as many Triple Triad cards as the game will let me.

Avoiding the negativity of the forums will help too, and keeping in mind that despite the idea that FFXIV is different, every game has such environments and toxicity in their community. It may have gotten worse over the last few years sure, but I have never seen in my twenty plus years of MMO gaming which does not have its share of doomsayers and trolls. Plus whilst I do think Yoshi and the Devs are a bit better then most, they are human and not perfect either. They will be stubborn and mess up just like any other dev. Does not mean the game is going the way of WoW, or that there is no hope for the classes that people are disappointed in.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I would also try other MMO's to solve that burnout. I personally enjoy ESO for a lot of its open world content.

[Jessica_VS]

Though when I really suffered the first stage of major burnout was when I read the forums and saw that the ffxiv dev team is not different then bungie or any other terrible studio.

That's understandable given the state of forums in general. If you visit just about any game's official forum, you'll find that they all---no matter the actual quality of the game---are filled with negativity. Like with reviews, some negativity is warranted and some isn't.

Try not to let other people's opinions about a thing affect your own feelings about a thing.

[Atelier-Bagur]

As an aside, don't be afraid to try other games - particularly MMO's. You might be surprised by what's on offer and may very well find your niche elsewhere. FFXIV has changed substantially over the years and on many fronts is seeking to appease a completely different target audience to what it originally sought. Much in the same way as how WoW did when many of us found ourselves taking our leave of it.

Because it's too casual?

[Solakor]

This game will never be the same as it was during HW or SB when most of the classes had proper intricacies and depth and combat gameplay was on the forefront. Yoshi himself said that this is the way forward so either you bend over and take it or take your money elsewhere because the golden days aint coming back.

[Atelier-Bagur]

This game will never be the same as it was during HW or SB when most of the classes had proper intricacies and depth and combat gameplay was on the forefront. Yoshi himself said that this is the way forward so either you bend over and take it or take your money elsewhere because the golden days aint coming back.

I doubt people back then weren't complaining just like how we are now. One thing I learned about online communities are that they never change and it's easy to get the nostalgic goggles when you stay long enough in a game.

[SturmChurro]

I doubt people back then weren't complaining just like how we are now. One thing I learned about online communities are that they never change and it's easy to get the nostalgic goggles when you stay long enough in a game.

The overall reception to the game actually was quite a bit different back then; more positive, of course there was still criticism towards different aspects in the game. The forum community has definitely changed over the years, and I am seeing less and less regulars from back then that are still around, though many of them have been banned. Many seem to have come to the forums more recently to give their takes on aspects of the story and the like,

[Liam_Harper]

I doubt people back then weren't complaining just like how we are now. One thing I learned about online communities are that they never change and it's easy to get the nostalgic goggles when you stay long enough in a game.

I hear this so often but I have absolutely played games where their forums were mostly positive overall. It definitely is possible. Even though ff14 has always had some complaints, there was a point where most people would agree it was a great game. I took a break last patch and picked up some good single player games and their forums were night and day difference to here.

The problem is when a game has received negative feedback for long enough, people just start to assume that's normal. It's the opposite of nostalgia googles. We actually forget how good a game can be.

I play ff14 because it's the best MMO on the market, not because it's an amazing game and perfect. The MMO market is in a slump right now and recent competition has been poor quality. FF14 is riddled with flaws, but there just isn't anything better.

[Vahlnir]

Short of taking a break, which I would still recommend regardless, it might not be a bad idea to try something you haven't done before. Test a new job that you haven't even considered. You might surprise yourself. Learn a boss fight and farm a mount, perhaps. When I start running out of things I want to do, I usually find something to farm. If that doesn't tide you over, I would suggest taking a break and playing a solo player game. A modded Skyrim playthrough can keep me busy for a while, but it obviously doesn't have to be that. Either way, do what is best for you. Burnout happens. It's inevitable.