Why is it so common to join extremes without watching a guide first?

[Tiramu]

Uh... You know, you had me at the first half... but no. No, if we're wiping this much in content and people still haven't grasped that they need to be mindful of other peoples' time, then I'm not the one at fault for not asking. Wiping 3 times warrants an explanation, because I'm not sitting around to explain one more thing if you're not going to get it. And guess what: they didn't get it! At that point it's frankly just being disrespectful.

It's not about being kind or following any code of ethics at that point. It's sheer common sense.



This :T

Like, even if you don't want to be a pro, which I don't even expect you to be, if someone's telling you what to do and you're clearly not getting it, take the L and learn. Don't give the person lip, and don't ignore them right after. Because at that point, no, it doesn't matter if you want to go in and learn slowly, you lost all reason and that person doesn't need to deal with your entitled arse any further. They gave you a chance: learn or leave. You don't choose to learn and improve, they don't have to deal with you.

I didn't subscribe to anything past minimal common courtesy.

Maybe you should read this back and think about what you're saying here.

Jumping in with a strategy when people want to figure stuff out for themselves isn't courteous. You could have simply asked whether they wanted help, and let them answer; then if the group isn't compatible with you then accept that you're not suited to that style of play and politely decline. If 3 wipes is just too much for you, then that sounds very impatient.

Going on about being a pro player. I dunno. Like I said before, guides make a big difference to content difficulty, and can take challenging content down to being super easy. So acting like pros read guides and get it right away doesn't sound right to me.