If people are joining through Duty Finder, they more than likely are newer players and don't know about how PF works or what to expect from Extremes. That's how I used to run Shiva EX when I was new back in stormblood. Just sit in DF. It worked. Essentially blind ran it w/ people and came really close to winning, but yeah. You're getting people who don't know what's up.
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