Why is it so common to join extremes without watching a guide first?

[LianaThorne]

Going in blind is perfectly fine, but it's about expectations.
I wouldn't join a EX Prog PF blind if it clearly stated "please watch a guide", for example.

The OP was initially about people who go in blind, claim they want to prog it blind, but immediately ask for someone to explain all the strats to them.
At that point you aren't actually going in blind nor do you want to, you're just wasting everyone's time. Watch a guide.

Ive personally never experienced anyone like that so I can't comment on it. I usually just get silent groups outside of like myself and one or two other people trying to help keep things organized. Is this a common thing people experience or is this one bad experience by OP being turned into a bigger deal?

[Iyrnthota]

Ive personally never experienced anyone like that so I can't comment on it. I usually just get silent groups outside of like myself and one or two other people trying to help keep things organized. Is this a common thing people experience or is this one bad experience by OP being turned into a bigger deal?

While I haven't experienced it myself, I've seen enough people talk about it to know that it is common when doing Mentor roulettes.
Often sprouts will join EX duties using Duty finder instead of PF, which comes with a whole range of issues.

Some are not very polite when people attempt to explain the way things are usually done.

[LianaThorne]

While I haven't experienced it myself, I've seen enough people talk about it to know that it is common when doing Mentor roulettes.
Often sprouts will join EX duties using Duty finder instead of PF, which comes with a whole range of issues.

Some are not very polite when people attempt to explain the way things are usually done.

I mean, from my memory back then the game doesn't tell you to use party finder when unlocking the first extreme (I believe it's Levi but I might be wrong). So in that case, unless someone goes out of their way to educate said sprout, they'll just use Duty Finder. You can't really blame them for Square's lack of understanding that JP and NA/EU operate differently for harder content (JP does things mainly through DF with the assistance of macros if you weren't aware before). I also don't believe they could even see on the Party Finder that people are queueing through there for other types of hard content since they wouldn't even have it unlocked (unless they got lucky when another Levi EX was being done through there).

As far as people being rude, it's unfortunate but this is the internet where people don't really feel a need to be as closed mouth about what they're thinking. This will be something encountered anywhere. All you can really do is kick them or leave yourself if kicking isn't an option, but their personality probably won't change by just asking them to stop. I mean it's possible I suppose.

[MonsutaMan]

I personally just do enough to get through the story.....lol

Zero interest in dealing with some you guys lol.......

Get me some NPC, a weapon, and a story....I can enjoy my own company. I play MMO because I like the game, not necessarily the people playing it.......I'm a Trill Negro, I will cuss you out....and sent you here to cry about.

Knowing that....I tend to just go solo.

[SassyAssassin]

I personally just do enough to get through the story.....lol

Zero interest in dealing with some you guys lol.......

Get me some NPC, a weapon, and a story....I can enjoy my own company. I play MMO because I like the game, not necessarily the people playing it.......I'm a Trill Negro, I will cuss you out....and sent you here to cry about.

Knowing that....I tend to just go solo.

Why you cussing people out there fren?

[SamSmoot]

I don't even join a new dungeon without watching all the available guide videos repeeatedly until I fully understand all the mechanics. However, doing this has scared me away from attempting savage content. (Don't know what extreme is.)

[Deveryn]

I don't even join a new dungeon without watching all the available guide videos repeeatedly until I fully understand all the mechanics. However, doing this has scared me away from attempting savage content. (Don't know what extreme is.)

Extreme is a step below savage as far as difficulty. From here on, fights are a properly coordinated dance to learn. The only scary part (IMO) is wondering how poorly the other seven people are going to do.

[Tiramu]

I don't even join a new dungeon without watching all the available guide videos repeeatedly until I fully understand all the mechanics. However, doing this has scared me away from attempting savage content. (Don't know what extreme is.)

Dont fear high end content, a lot of people make a way bigger deal then necessary with them and make a song and dance when groups dont clear them as if they are easy.

Just set aside an hour or two to give some high end content, starting with Extreme, runs a go.

The first set are the ARR Ex Trials against the primals. Of these, the hardest are Ramuh and King Moggle Mog - mostly due to the step up and there being so much going on. The others really arent too bad.

My advice would to be to put a group together in your FC, or make your own PF group where you can set your own terms; like newbie run/practice or for fun which should turn away most impatient types.

[RyuDragnier]

I don't even join a new dungeon without watching all the available guide videos repeeatedly until I fully understand all the mechanics. However, doing this has scared me away from attempting savage content. (Don't know what extreme is.)

Extreme are essentially the harder difficulty of the trials. Mechanics change, the bosses often do things differently, and some mechanics are removed entirely. For EW, I'd suggest doing the 1st Extreme if you want to get into one. There isn't much to the fight, as it's more of a dance of mechanics to avoid. You get that down, and congratulations, you've basically taken your first step into the harder content.

Savage is basically just a step higher than that. As long as you learn "the dance", the fights aren't too difficult. There will be a few mechanics you need help with, but that goes for everybody. Personally I have difficulty with some of the mechanics from P6S, but there's always somebody calling out mechanics to help people on where to go, if you're in a static (premade group for the tier).

[bubblesbutternut]

first time player experience tbh that is why you can set up party finder and set restrictions also watching a video then jumping in is an overload of information sometimes just going in blind then watching a video can make the video way more easy to understand