The Devs need a much needed thanks!

[Hurlstone]

Yes, my child?

*Saves GIF*

[Silverbane]

Disregarding that not every piece of knowledge needs to be consolidated into a tome for people to understand a concept and form their own opinion on it...

You must own a hay field somewhere, to be so quick and prolific with your strawman arguments.
You're "disregarding" something only you said, even as you say it, duckspeaker.

you do know Orwellian situations are grossly misinterpreted even by people who have read 1984, right?

And are you next going to give me a newsflash about how some people call anyone they disagree with a Nazi?

Besides, isn't it most likely that people misinterpreting "Orwellian" situations haven't actually read Orwell's work? E.g.: I was at a writer's conference, and in a large room packed with real and wanna-be authors, when asked to raise their hands if they'd read 1984, exactly one of those authors did so.

And even with that, do most of the few people who read 1984 also read "The Principles of Newspeak", the appendix? If not, they missed the best, most informative, part of Orwell's work.

Did you read the appendix? Can you distinguish between even double-plus good and double-plus ungood duckspeakers? (I'll wait while you search the Internet for a way to pretend you can, if you need that.)

[Silverbane]

When you try and defend what cannot be defended, you will get attacked for it, /shrug

Who decides what "cannot be defended" ?
A what, exactly, have I defended that falls into that category? Thanking the devs?

Not holding my breath for an answer, though.
And it's pathetic that Stormpeaks promotes attacking people, rather than refuting their arguments, on online forums.
Sign of the times.

[Midareyukki]

You must own a hay field somewhere, to be so quick and prolific with your strawman arguments.
You're "disregarding" something only you said, even as you say it, duckspeaker.

Wow, who hurt YOU Silverbane? I'm literally just telling you "Okay, keep in mind people can be smart without needing to read." WHO ARE YOU TO INSULT ME?? The actual hell did I do to you??

Yeah no, you just proved to everyone here you're as vile as you seem. I didn't do jack and you're already throwing insults? You are not worth my time whatsoever.

What strawman? I'm telling you flat-out: "You don't need to do read stuff to actually be smart and understand things". Simple as.

And are you next going to give me a newsflash about how some people call anyone they disagree with a Nazi?

No? I'm just saying that you can read a book but it doesn't make you smart. I don't give a darn if you're a nazi or not, nor if you agree or disagree.
Just like having the ability to speak does not make you intelligent.

You know. Just like you have so poisonously proven!

I'll wait while you search the Internet for a way to pretend you can, if you need that.

Wait all you want, I really don't care about you nor anything you have to say anymore. You're awful.

And I don't care if they read X or Y. As I said, which you clearly didn't give two flying dodos to look at because you instantly got insulted over me bringing your attention to your own dumb high horse, YOU DON'T NEED TO READ ANYTHING TO UNDERSTAND STUFF.

[Boblawblah]

can we get back to talking about Venat now?

[Silverbane]

Wow, who hurt YOU Silverbane? I'm literally just telling you "Okay, keep in mind people can be smart without needing to read." WHO ARE YOU TO INSULT ME?? The actual hell did I do to you??

Yeah no, you just proved to everyone here you're as vile as you seem. I didn't do jack and you're already throwing insults? You are not worth my time whatsoever.

What strawman? I'm telling you flat-out: "You don't need to do read stuff to actually be smart and understand things". Simple as.



No? I'm just saying that you can read a book but it doesn't make you smart. I don't give a darn if you're a nazi or not, nor if you agree or disagree.
Just like having the ability to speak does not make you intelligent.

You know. Just like you have so poisonously proven!



Wait all you want, I really don't care about you nor anything you have to say anymore. You're awful.

And I don't care if they read X or Y. As I said, which you clearly didn't give two flying dodos to look at because you instantly got insulted over me bringing your attention to your own dumb high horse, YOU DON'T NEED TO READ ANYTHING TO UNDERSTAND STUFF.

Wow, talk about an over-reaction.
As ameliaw likes to say (and no one attacks them for saying),"take you meds, buddy."

[Maltothoris]

Just ignore Silver. It what I had to to do to ignore their senseless drivel.

Anyways I can give thanks to the devs for trying but there are times where their decisions are baffling. Take Living Dead for example, sure it got fixed in 6.1 but that took 7 years for them to finally do it. Same foes for Afflatus Misery. They fixed it but it took them 2 and a half years for them to do it. The way housing done is slightly better but it was such a low bar from the get go that anything change is better just by default.

At least they are trying to be more transparent with their reasoning but sometimes I really do think they can drop on the ball on it regardless.

[Jojoya]

I think the mistake most of us made is thinking that FFXIV's community was actually good. It's just as bad as any other group once you start to dive through it's cracks.

At least it's less so in-game, that's probably the only good thing going for it and even then you can still run some problems.

No, the FFXIV community is good. Being in game is a pleasant experience for the most part. Is it perfect? No, but then nothing is. But for the most part players are still having a good time despite the problems.

It's the forum communities, that the vast majority of players do not take part in, that have problems. Doesn't matter if it's the official forums, the subreddit or any of the other places that a small segment of the community congregates to discuss the game.

People like to talk about what is outside of their expected experience. Being happy is expected and taken for granted so it's rarely mentioned. Being unhappy is not expected and so ends up a subject of discussion, usually to vent.

And so you end up with mostly negative echo chambers. People gather together to vent, then get angry when others insert their positive opinions. Or vice versa - someone tries to start a positive discussion and those upset join it to point out they're unhappy.

People can have a hard time disagreeing in constructive fashion.

I like to make positive posts to help somewhat balance out the negativity. I get that the forums are where we're supposed to go to give feedback, but it seems they're overwhelmingly negative at times. It's during those times I think about making a positive post, but often don't to avoid being called a White Knight or nasty things.

Sometimes you've got to dive into the deep end. Your feelings are your feelings, regardless of those that disagree.

If their best rebuttal is "you're a white knight", why worry about what they think?

[Silverbane]

Just ignore Silver. It what I had to to do to ignore their senseless drivel.

And yet here you are, posting about me. That hardly counts as ignoring me.

I really wouldn't mind if the haters put me in their ignore lists, but I don't think it will happen.
They're too obsessed with me.

[Edit: You could ask them why they are obsessed with me, don't expect an honest answer.
- they probably don't really know; introspection is a skill they seem to lack.]

[Absimiliard]

There's enough salt in this thread to turn animals into statues.