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  1. #201
    Player SentioftheHoukai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    I just want to say that reading you completely dismantle this basket case of a human being was as insightful as it was enjoyable.

    Thank YOU for making the forums a better place.
    Hey, look Awesome! You've a new fan!

    By the by, did you just assume Silverbane's species?! For all you know, she's a robot or an AI. Or..... le Gasp! could she be of that dreaded breed of Theodrics?! An..... ALT?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    Hey, look Awesome! You've a new fan!

    By the by, did you just assume Silverbane's species?! For all you know, she's a robot or an AI. Or..... le Gasp! could she be of that dreaded breed of Theodrics?! An..... ALT?!
    I could care less what or how they choose to identify to be quite honest. To each their own on that front.

    Otherwise, it matters little what I think, but I believe it's important that these hateful sorts are spoken up against
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I'm all for praising them when they deserve it, as well as criticizing them when it is needed. To be honest though, it seems like a thread like this pops up every time there's some drama over a recent development decision, so it makes me wonder what the intention is.
    I like to make positive posts to help somewhat balance out the negativity. I get that the forums are where we're supposed to go to give feedback, but it seems they're overwhelmingly negative at times. It's during those times I think about making a positive post, but often don't to avoid being called a White Knight or nasty things.

    I understand that something wasn't balanced properly and a couple jobs needed tweaking, but since I don't engage in that sort of content I don't fully get the gravity of the situation. From where I'm sitting, and the content I do, I'm very happy with the current state of the game and am generally positive when thinking about changes going forward. Do I think some things need to be changed? Yes (housing, I'm looking at you), but I also think the game's in the best state it's ever been in, I look forward to the future, and am grateful to CBU3 for everything they've done to-date.
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  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    I like to make positive posts to help somewhat balance out the negativity.

    I'm very happy with the current state of the game and am generally positive when thinking about changes going forward. Do I think some things need to be changed? Yes (housing, I'm looking at you), but I also think the game's in the best state it's ever been in, I look forward to the future, and am grateful to CBU3 for everything they've done to-date.
    I'm a bit more positive as of late, but this is mostly because I have seen viera get more frequent updates in regards to their hair. I will give my opinion regardless of if it's positive or not. I see no need to artificially "balance" out anything. For example, with the new mogstation outfit, I made it very clear my thoughts on them now charging a premium to fit pieces for each gender, and the removal of racial features. My opinion on the lack of quality going in. I think SE should be receiving our honest feedback on their products. If they deserve praise then give them praise, if they don't, then let's try to talk about it.

    I disagree with this game being in the best state it's ever been in, I think a lot has been sacrificed over the years. Detailed talk is for another thread or threads though.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 09-20-2022 at 01:36 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I'm a bit more positive as of late, but this is mostly because I have seen viera get more frequent updates in regards to their hair. I will give my opinion regardless of if it's positive or not. I see no need to artificially "balance" out anything. For example, with the new mogstation outfit, I made it very clear my thoughts on them now charging a premium to fit pieces for both genders, and the removal of racial features. My opinion on the lack of quality going in. I think SE should be receiving our honest feedback on their products. If they deserve praise then give them praise, if they don't, then let's try to talk about it.

    I disagree with this game being in the best state it's ever been in, I think a lot has been sacrificed over the years. Detailed talk is for another thread or threads though.
    I've been a bit more positive too. 6.2 has, at least for me, been an excellent step in the right direction after the mess that was 6.1. Still, they have a long way to go with rebuilding trust. There are many issues with the game currently, and drowning out the feedback whenever and wherever people can helps no one. Like you said, we don't need balance. We need feedback, good and bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post


    Yes, my child?

    Perfection.
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  7. #207
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I'm a bit more positive as of late, but this is mostly because I have seen viera get more frequent updates in regards to their hair
    TwT

    *lion hug*

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I've been a bit more positive too. 6.2 has, at least for me, been an excellent step in the right direction after the mess that was 6.1. Still, they have a long way to go with rebuilding trust. There are many issues with the game currently, and drowning out the feedback whenever and wherever people can helps no one. Like you said, we don't need balance. We need feedback, good and bad.
    Yeah, not much is "wrong" in 6.2, just in need of attention at best. The worst they've done was the awkward change to Savage when classes have weird optimization paths (is it true PLDs have to skip over one Atonement to line things up?).

    I think the ones that shut down feedback the most is the playerbase rather than the devs. The devs do get snarky at times (silence for Hrothgar additions, telling healers to go play Ultimate if they want a challenge...), but they at least are willing to listen. Otherwise we wouldn't have had Reaper

    It's the players who see one tiny thing and go "BUT WHAT IF I STIRRED SH*T UP?" for absolutely no reason other than to cause chaos. Especially the ones that don't even read stuff before barging into threads. We really don't need that. People just don't know how to disagree without acting entitled, and then they're surprised that they get passive-aggressive responses. It's just a stupid loop of toxicity that, again, no one needs.
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  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    but I believe it's important that these hateful sorts are spoken up against
    Are you talking about "hateful sorts" who stalk people from thread to thread looking for any excuse to post attacks on them? I.e., people like awesomeJr and SentioftheHoukai? Apparently not.

    But no surprise. After all, surveys indicate that some people believe the US border is more secure than ever, and that inflation was at 0% in August, like the WH says. I don't doubt that some posters here are among those people. The human capacity for doublethink is as bad as Orwell portrayed it to be ... too bad so few people read 1984 (or Animal Farm) anymore.

    On topic: thank you, devs, for the Summer Sunset Sandals. They aren't exactly what I want for my fem Vieras, but they are very nice and a step in the right direction. And they didn't cost extra!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Are you talking about "hateful sorts" who stalk people from thread to thread looking for any excuse to post attacks on them? I.e., people like awesomeJr and SentioftheHoukai? Apparently not.

    But no surprise. After all, surveys indicate that some people believe the US border is more secure than ever, and that inflation was at 0% in August, like the WH says. I don't doubt that some posters here are among those people. The human capacity for doublethink is as bad as Orwell portrayed it to be ... too bad so few people read 1984 (or Animal Farm) anymore.

    On topic: thank you, devs, for the Summer Sunset Sandals. They aren't exactly what I want for my fem Vieras, but they are very nice and a step in the right direction. And they didn't cost extra!
    When you try and defend what cannot be defended, you will get attacked for it, /shrug
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  10. #210
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    The human capacity for doublethink is as bad as Orwell portrayed it to be ... too bad so few people read 1984 (or Animal Farm) anymore.
    Disregarding that not every piece of knowledge needs to be consolidated into a tome for people to understand a concept and form their own opinion on it... you do know Orwellian situations are grossly misinterpreted even by people who have read 1984, right?

    That it really depends on how you view it and life and what you perceive the other side to be? It's all about self-reflection, which reading the book is no guarantee you're capable of. When it came out, you had three camps. People who saw it as a criticism of communism, people who saw it as a criticism of capitalism and people who saw it as a criticism of any extreme faction that turns to authoritarian measures. None but the author could explain for certain, and he was long dead at the time, so so much for that. And even analysing his life doesn't exactly help, because by all standards, he was upset at both socialism and capitalism. So you could just whip out whatever moral you wanted from it. Which, ironically, it too was Orwellian in a way, because it would go on to justify people's own morals rather than promote self-reflection for one's actions.

    TLDR: Reading philosophy doesn't make you a guru in any way. People can be smart, use common sense and be perfectly rational and intelligent without having to prove it by being pretentious enough to read classics. And even those who do read them can easily twist the narrative and the point of the book to suit their opinions. It's not necessarily a good indicator.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 09-20-2022 at 02:21 AM.

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