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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    And who decides when it is the right time? Apparently, you think it's you, and not them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I just want to point out that the critics aren't the ones telling you that you can NEVER be positive. All we're saying is that you should be positive when its the right time to be positive and SE does something you like, and that it's ok to be negative when it's the right time to be negative when SE screws up. On the other hand, you have the critic police out in full force, calling anyone who isn't overly positive a 'hater' that should be ignored by polite society.
    The right time to be positive is when SE does things you like. Not when they do the bare minimum. Conversely, it's ok to be negative when SE does something you don't like. That does not make you a hater.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Nah, it's just the haters who get called haters.
    Define 'haters'. My guess is that 'haters' are people who don't constantly thank SE for everything and actually have the honesty in them to be negative when something's wrong in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    People who get obsessed with posters they disagree with and find excuses to attack and lie about them everywhere, even when responding to other people.
    I haven't been lying and that's probably the scariest part. Everything I've said about you is true. You HAVE gone into multiple threads to start drama. You HAVE tried to play internet psychologist with me and pick apart my life (even though you failed massively) to discredit my desire that there would be more content during content droughts. You HAVE been a boastful person who can't make a post without either bragging about themselves or their spouse, or claiming to be the victim when someone rightfully points out what you're doing.

    Silverbane. If you don't like what you see when I show you a mirror, I'm not the one you're horrified at.

    Don't believe me? Need I once more get the housing thread quote as proof? I can link the whole thread for everyone else to see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Some might think that how much you're upset and obsessed with me is a tribute to my devastating rhetorical skills,
    Your rhetorical skills are devastating bad. The only skills you seem to have are bragging and making others mad at you. But that can change. Don't settle for who you are today, go out there, learn new skills, and improve your tomorrow. (I should make that a quote, that sounds really inspiring)

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Because on the Internet forums, the only one who can truly humiliate you is you.
    Which you've proceeded to do to yourself multiple times. All I've done is provide the evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Well, maybe when you grow up.
    I don't mean to offend any other elderly folks who may be browsing the thread, but if growing up means turning into a person like you, I'll pass. Thank you for the offer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravor View Post
    Sometimes, i also think to myself to thank the dev and make this kind of thread, but again, i already paid subscription to the game monthly, it doesnt mean i disagree with this kind of thread, it just people need to remember, we played the game for the fun and paid for it, it is the dev duty and obligation to make sure it is fun for the player to justify the player to keep playing it and paid the subscription, it is simply business in the end of the day
    Exactly! And there's nothing wrong with praising the devs when they impress us. But our subscriptions are our thanks for doing the bare minimum, their jobs. Thus if they do not excel, they will receive our subs, but not our praises or thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I've been getting attacked a lot lately; the post above is a response to such an attack.
    It's hardly a rampage, though. I've ignored a lot of those attacks.
    You've been getting 'attacked' BECAUSE you're going on a rampage. You're showing up to threads, causing problems, then whining that you're getting called out for it. You have it all backwards. Stop the drama and no one will call you out for it. Even me. Seriously, I'm willing to let bygones be bygones with the whole internet psychologist thing if you develop some self awareness and stop what you're doing.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 09-19-2022 at 10:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    The right time to be positive is when SE does things you like. Not when they do the bare minimum. Conversely, it's ok to be negative when SE does something you don't like. That does not make you a hater.



    Define 'haters'. My guess is that 'haters' are people who don't constantly thank SE for everything and actually have the honesty in them to be negative when something's wrong in the game.



    I haven't been lying and that's probably the scariest part. Everything I've said about you is true. You HAVE gone into multiple threads to start drama. You HAVE tried to play internet psychologist with me and pick apart my life (even though you failed massively) to discredit my desire that there would be more content during content droughts. You HAVE been a boastful person who can't make a post without either bragging about themselves or their spouse, or claiming to be the victim when someone rightfully points out what you're doing.

    Silverbane. If you don't like what you see when I show you a mirror, I'm not the one you're horrified at.

    Don't believe me? Need I once more get the housing thread quote as proof? I can link the whole thread for everyone else to see.



    Your rhetorical skills are devastating bad. The only skills you seem to have are bragging and making others mad at you. But that can change. Don't settle for who you are today, go out there, learn new skills, and improve your tomorrow. (I should make that a quote, that sounds really inspiring)



    Which you've proceeded to do to yourself multiple times. All I've done is provide the evidence.



    I don't mean to offend any other elderly folks who may be browsing the thread, but if growing up means turning into a person like you, I'll pass. Thank you for the offer.



    Exactly! And there's nothing wrong with praising the devs when they impress us. But our subscriptions are our thanks for doing the bare minimum, their jobs. Thus if they do not excel, they will receive our subs, but not our praises or thanks.



    You've been getting 'attacked' BECAUSE you're going on a rampage. You're showing up to threads, causing problems, then whining that you're getting called out for it. You have it all backwards. Stop the drama and no one will call you out for it. Even me. Seriously, I'm willing to let bygones be bygones with the whole internet psychologist thing if you develop some self awareness and stop what you're doing.
    I just want to say that reading you completely dismantle this basket case of a human being was as insightful as it was enjoyable.

    Thank YOU for making the forums a better place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    I just want to say that reading you completely dismantle this basket case of a human being was as insightful as it was enjoyable.

    Thank YOU for making the forums a better place.
    Hey, look Awesome! You've a new fan!

    By the by, did you just assume Silverbane's species?! For all you know, she's a robot or an AI. Or..... le Gasp! could she be of that dreaded breed of Theodrics?! An..... ALT?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    Hey, look Awesome! You've a new fan!

    By the by, did you just assume Silverbane's species?! For all you know, she's a robot or an AI. Or..... le Gasp! could she be of that dreaded breed of Theodrics?! An..... ALT?!
    I could care less what or how they choose to identify to be quite honest. To each their own on that front.

    Otherwise, it matters little what I think, but I believe it's important that these hateful sorts are spoken up against
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Firbold View Post
    but I believe it's important that these hateful sorts are spoken up against
    Are you talking about "hateful sorts" who stalk people from thread to thread looking for any excuse to post attacks on them? I.e., people like awesomeJr and SentioftheHoukai? Apparently not.

    But no surprise. After all, surveys indicate that some people believe the US border is more secure than ever, and that inflation was at 0% in August, like the WH says. I don't doubt that some posters here are among those people. The human capacity for doublethink is as bad as Orwell portrayed it to be ... too bad so few people read 1984 (or Animal Farm) anymore.

    On topic: thank you, devs, for the Summer Sunset Sandals. They aren't exactly what I want for my fem Vieras, but they are very nice and a step in the right direction. And they didn't cost extra!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Are you talking about "hateful sorts" who stalk people from thread to thread looking for any excuse to post attacks on them? I.e., people like awesomeJr and SentioftheHoukai? Apparently not.

    But no surprise. After all, surveys indicate that some people believe the US border is more secure than ever, and that inflation was at 0% in August, like the WH says. I don't doubt that some posters here are among those people. The human capacity for doublethink is as bad as Orwell portrayed it to be ... too bad so few people read 1984 (or Animal Farm) anymore.

    On topic: thank you, devs, for the Summer Sunset Sandals. They aren't exactly what I want for my fem Vieras, but they are very nice and a step in the right direction. And they didn't cost extra!
    When you try and defend what cannot be defended, you will get attacked for it, /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    When you try and defend what cannot be defended, you will get attacked for it, /shrug
    Who decides what "cannot be defended" ?
    A what, exactly, have I defended that falls into that category? Thanking the devs?

    Not holding my breath for an answer, though.
    And it's pathetic that Stormpeaks promotes attacking people, rather than refuting their arguments, on online forums.
    Sign of the times.
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    Last edited by Silverbane; 09-20-2022 at 02:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    The human capacity for doublethink is as bad as Orwell portrayed it to be ... too bad so few people read 1984 (or Animal Farm) anymore.
    Disregarding that not every piece of knowledge needs to be consolidated into a tome for people to understand a concept and form their own opinion on it... you do know Orwellian situations are grossly misinterpreted even by people who have read 1984, right?

    That it really depends on how you view it and life and what you perceive the other side to be? It's all about self-reflection, which reading the book is no guarantee you're capable of. When it came out, you had three camps. People who saw it as a criticism of communism, people who saw it as a criticism of capitalism and people who saw it as a criticism of any extreme faction that turns to authoritarian measures. None but the author could explain for certain, and he was long dead at the time, so so much for that. And even analysing his life doesn't exactly help, because by all standards, he was upset at both socialism and capitalism. So you could just whip out whatever moral you wanted from it. Which, ironically, it too was Orwellian in a way, because it would go on to justify people's own morals rather than promote self-reflection for one's actions.

    TLDR: Reading philosophy doesn't make you a guru in any way. People can be smart, use common sense and be perfectly rational and intelligent without having to prove it by being pretentious enough to read classics. And even those who do read them can easily twist the narrative and the point of the book to suit their opinions. It's not necessarily a good indicator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Disregarding that not every piece of knowledge needs to be consolidated into a tome for people to understand a concept and form their own opinion on it...
    You must own a hay field somewhere, to be so quick and prolific with your strawman arguments.
    You're "disregarding" something only you said, even as you say it, duckspeaker.
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    you do know Orwellian situations are grossly misinterpreted even by people who have read 1984, right?
    And are you next going to give me a newsflash about how some people call anyone they disagree with a Nazi?

    Besides, isn't it most likely that people misinterpreting "Orwellian" situations haven't actually read Orwell's work? E.g.: I was at a writer's conference, and in a large room packed with real and wanna-be authors, when asked to raise their hands if they'd read 1984, exactly one of those authors did so.

    And even with that, do most of the few people who read 1984 also read "The Principles of Newspeak", the appendix? If not, they missed the best, most informative, part of Orwell's work.

    Did you read the appendix? Can you distinguish between even double-plus good and double-plus ungood duckspeakers? (I'll wait while you search the Internet for a way to pretend you can, if you need that.)
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