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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    The devs should be praised when they do good work. They should also be criticized when something goes wrong. Fair is fair.

    Would be far more useful if people could be reasonable and adult about it instead of the standard "small indie company devs don't care about EN" rhetoric, but that's anonymous social media for ya.
    Exactly.

    Things I praise the devs for:
    - 1.0 -> ARR
    - Listening to fans and adding content in
    - Making the game's experience not be any more of a hassle than it has to be (at least in comparison to when I started, thank god sprouts don't have to go through half of what I did)
    - Understand their game is old and has outdated designs and try to improve on them
    - Being somewhat creative on their job designs
    - Crafting and Gathering not making me want to quit the game
    - Honestly entertaining story with fun Final Fantasy-style ham and cringe that contrasts the awkwardness old MMOs have
    - Hrothgars!
    - Being able to play with PS4 people (I wouldn't have met my friends otherwise, and I love them to bits)
    - All of Shadowbringers
    - Soken
    - Housing and other similarly chill content
    and others!

    Things I do not praise the devs for:
    - Being complacent
    - Ignoring fan feedback
    - Making stupid decisions that benefit absolutely no one! (also: not thinking twice before going through with their designs)
    - Quality Assurance going down the drain
    - Their treatment of Hrothgars after release
    - Job design being utter chaos
    - Stupid answers (ok assuming I can forgive them saying Hrothgar ears were hard, the hell kind of answer is 'go play ultimate'????)
    - Cringe in the MSQ. But like, the BAD cringe. Loporrits.
    - Lack of transparency
    and others around the same vein.

    And I have zero problem hiding either of these camps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Boss man doesn't see you doing a good job just cause people spend money at the store. That is to be expected. When people start whining though...they are SO QUICK to voice their complaints...and boss man sees that and thinks you are terrible.
    Oh, you're right in saying this. I agree with that assessment. Unfortunately at no point was any of that sentiment properly worded by OP and her shills until now.

    The devs do require praise as well, otherwise they're demotivated AF. But I'm sorry, I WON'T stop saying where they screwed up just because I know they'll be demotivated if I do. And sometimes, I can't just up and whip out a good thing out of my trousers, it's not that simple. And it looks forced if I do.

    I pay the devs my subscription. I'm still around BECAUSE I love playing their content. I'm still a Hrothgar BECAUSE I love being one, otherwise I'd just change or stop playing. They made the content, well I'm playing it and enjoying it, even if it seems like they don't want me to. If the devs need a bit more motivation, then they have it, all over the internet. Millions of voices, tweets, posts, streamers, cosplayers, all of it, expressing their love and support for the game and their dev team.

    But this is the only one place they accept criticism. And unfortunately for them, lately, it has to come hot and harsh. They had flaws in Stormblood, they had flaws in Shadowbringers. I didn't really care, hell, I even defended them at the time. But Endwalker for me was too much all at once.

    I point to this post again. Remember that they were the ones who said "A criticism is better than a compliment". Not me: THEM. We DO compliment them. But if they screw up, they have to know. And if they refuse to acknowledge their issues, how else are we meant to feel? How are healers meant to feel when they ask for challenge and are told to take a hike? From the dev team we're meant to sing praises to? It just makes us not want to sing any praise at all! And that shouldn't be devalued just because "it's too negative".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Exactly.





    Oh, you're right in saying this. I agree with that assessment. Unfortunately at no point was any of that sentiment properly worded by OP and her shills until now.

    The devs do require praise as well, otherwise they're demotivated AF. But I'm sorry, I WON'T stop saying where they screwed up just because I know they'll be demotivated if I do. And sometimes, I can't just up and whip out a good thing out of my trousers, it's not that simple. And it looks forced if I do.

    I pay the devs my subscription. I'm still around BECAUSE I love playing their content. I'm still a Hrothgar BECAUSE I love being one, otherwise I'd just change or stop playing. They made the content, well I'm playing it and enjoying it, even if it seems like they don't want me to. If the devs need a bit more motivation, then they have it, all over the internet. Millions of voices, tweets, posts, streamers, cosplayers, all of it, expressing their love and support for the game and their dev team.

    But this is the only one place they accept criticism. And unfortunately for them, lately, it has to come hot and harsh. They had flaws in Stormblood, they had flaws in Shadowbringers. I didn't really care, hell, I even defended them at the time. But Endwalker for me was too much all at once.

    I point to this post again. Remember that they were the ones who said "A criticism is better than a compliment". Not me: THEM. We DO compliment them. But if they screw up, they have to know. And if they refuse to acknowledge their issues, how else are we meant to feel? How are healers meant to feel when they ask for challenge and are told to take a hike? From the dev team we're meant to sing praises to? It just makes us not want to sing any praise at all! And that shouldn't be devalued just because "it's too negative".
    Most reasonable response yet. I appreciate that. Had to cut the quote a bit cause 3000 character limit.
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