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    I give them my thanks by staying subscribed.
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    You can praise the devs, but you have to call them out too when they're clearly in the wrong
    Not that i'm saying harass them, it's never okay to harass people, but they've clearly messed up with job balance and their response is very lackluster.

    Won't nerf jobs because they don't want to upset people
    Won't buff underperforming jobs to not upset the jobs doing well...?
    so never adjust jobs by that logic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    You can praise the devs, but you have to call them out too when they're clearly in the wrong.
    No, I don't.

    I can praise my spouse but overlook their mistakes.
    After four decades together, that seems to work pretty well.
    I don't see that I need to treat the devs any different.

    Like my spouse, and unlike most forum posters, the devs have brought a lot of fun into my life.
    So like my spouse, I cut the devs some slack.

    BTW, there's evidence that punishment may not be a good tool for training dogs. (https://arstechnica.com/science/2022...ining-to-heel/).
    If those findings generalize to other mammals, abusing the devs here in the forums may not produce the results the abusers are hoping for.

    [Edit: and may be a reason why the devs don't seem to pay any attention to the English forums.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    No, I don't.

    I can praise my spouse but overlook their mistakes.
    After four decades together, that seems to work pretty well.
    I don't see that I need to treat the devs any different.

    Like my spouse, and unlike most forum posters, the devs have brought a lot of fun into my life.
    So like my spouse, I cut the devs some slack.

    BTW, there's evidence that punishment may not be a good tool for training dogs. (https://arstechnica.com/science/2022...ining-to-heel/).
    If those findings generalize to other mammals, abusing the devs here in the forums may not produce the results the abusers are hoping for.

    [Edit: and may be a reason why the devs don't seem to pay any attention to the English forums.]
    I don't think I need to tell you this, but you are not in a relationship with the development team. It's all parasocial. The only one relationship you're in with them is customer/service provider. And if it's not working out, but you know they can do better, would you not say something?

    No one's punishing the devs. This isn't Pavlov's Dog. Expressing exhasperation, disappointment or frustration is a healthy thing when justified. And some of it IS justified :| People going overboard and being disrespectful? I get criticising that. People bringing up negative aspects and expressing disappointment? The devs asked for feedback, not an echo chamber of applause.

    Silverbane...

    ...please stop smoking the Gysahl Greens, this isn't sane.
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 09-18-2022 at 11:36 AM. Reason: ._. I forgot the word "criticising", sounded like I was condoning being an a-hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I don't think I need to tell you this, but you are not in a relationship with the development team. It's all parasocial. The only one relationship you're in with them is customer/service provider. And if it's not working out, but you know they can do better, would you not say something?

    No one's punishing the devs. This isn't Pavlov's Dog. Expressing exhasperation, disappointment or frustration is a healthy thing when justified. And some of it IS justified :| People going overboard and being disrespectful? I get that. People bringing up negative aspects and expressing disappointment? The devs asked for feedback, not an echo chamber of applause.

    Silverbane...

    ...please stop smoking the Gysahl Greens, this isn't sane.
    If Silverbane is in a relationship with the dev team, she's in an abusive relationship lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m sorry but saying people who have valid criticisms against a game are people who wouldn’t tip is both a straw man and just immature

    We aren’t haters we just have standards
    You're a hater because you don't kiss the feet of the devs when they screw up for the millionth time in a row
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    No, I don't.

    I can praise my spouse but overlook their mistakes.
    After four decades together, that seems to work pretty well.
    I don't see that I need to treat the devs any different.

    Like my spouse, and unlike most forum posters, the devs have brought a lot of fun into my life.
    So like my spouse, I cut the devs some slack.

    BTW, there's evidence that punishment may not be a good tool for training dogs. (https://arstechnica.com/science/2022...ining-to-heel/).
    If those findings generalize to other mammals, abusing the devs here in the forums may not produce the results the abusers are hoping for.

    [Edit: and may be a reason why the devs don't seem to pay any attention to the English forums.]
    Uh..... what?

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    It doesn't take courage to post on an online forum. If you think it does, you're a coward. And I say this as someone with a lot of opinions that aren't 'mainstream'. Also, labeling anyone and everyone as a 'hater' if they don't shower Yoshi and his team of devs with constant praise is just trying to invalidate the people who don't think that praise should be a participation trophy. Although if we want to be fair, you're a pretty hateful person yourself Silverbane. Are you sure that you aren't a 'hater'?
    Yeaaaaahhhh.... This is probably gonna sound more than a bit like a tongue-twister, but here we go. If you go around calling everyone and their 90 year old grandmother who routinely bakes the entire neighborhood cookies, and the ones you constantly label as haters DON'T do this.....

    What renders you so assuredly certain YOU are not the hateful one?

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I used to as well, but they've burnt through the goodwill they've built up with me throughout the years. SE is not my friend. They're not my spouse. They're a business, and if they don't treat me, as one of their customers, correctly I will criticize them.
    Cue the mental images of Yoshi-P as your doting husbando.

    Please look foward to it~



    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I don't think I need to tell you this, but you are not in a relationship with the development team. It's all parasocial. The only one relationship you're in with them is customer/service provider. And if it's not working out, but you know they can do better, would you not say something?

    No one's punishing the devs. This isn't Pavlov's Dog. Expressing exhasperation, disappointment or frustration is a healthy thing when justified. And some of it IS justified :| People going overboard and being disrespectful? I get criticising that. People bringing up negative aspects and expressing disappointment? The devs asked for feedback, not an echo chamber of applause.

    Silverbane...

    ...please stop smoking the Gysahl Greens, this isn't sane.
    Yeah, that's for the Chocobros!

    You don't see humans eating dog food! ......Well, some do. But they're weird, and we don't talk about them.
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    Last edited by SentioftheHoukai; 09-18-2022 at 11:57 AM. Reason: Oh dear, MOAR dogged dialogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    Uh..... what?
    It's a Silverbane post. It's best to not think too hard about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    It's a Silverbane post. It's best to not think too hard about it...
    We’re they the one diagnosing people with addiction when they asked for more than 4 hours of content every 3 months
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    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    We’re they the one diagnosing people with addiction when they asked for more than 4 hours of content every 3 months
    Yep! And I was the target of said 'diagnosis'! (Hence why I remember it so well and refuse to let Silverbane forget it lol)
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 09-18-2022 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    We’re they the one diagnosing people with addiction when they asked for more than 4 hours of content every 3 months
    Mhm. Then they turned right around and made two separate posts letting everyone and their mythological spouses know the game's servers were back up the moment Square smacked the big, red button. Who's the addicted, eternally hostile corpo shill again?
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    Last edited by SentioftheHoukai; 09-18-2022 at 12:00 PM. Reason: Edit. Grammar and punctuation demand no less.