The Devs need a much needed thanks!

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Despite this last week and the amount of flak that they received, they work extremely hard to bring us a game that is much loved and enjoyed. The amount of hate I have seen this past week because a class can't do 1% more damage is absurd in the slightest, but then again that is only less than 2% of the community most likely complaining. Those that are complaining are the ones that have zero ideal what they are talking about and are only outcrying what their favorite streamer is telling them to outcry.

Again: Thank you Devs for bringing us an amazing game. I know mistakes are made, we are all human and you all do your best to fix it. I look forward to seeing what you bring in 6.25 and 6.3.

No no thanks. They still can't fix housing yet every single MMO out there has gotten housing right yet this idea seems to escape them. Character customization is lacking and needs a overhaul. UI is outdated and needs improvement. Job balancing is broken and they still can't get it right. The list goes on. Why after all these years they can't fix it?

[AlaineIV]

No no thanks. They still can't fix housing yet every single MMO out there has gotten housing right yet this idea seems to escape them. Character customization is lacking and needs a overhaul. UI is outdated and needs improvement. Job balancing is broken and they still can't get it right. The list goes on. Why after all these years they can't fix it?

If you pay attention to the live letters, they are working on updating the game graphically. Things like this are not done over night and take time, specially a game as large as this. Grant it there are UI improvements that need to be made, that some QoL mods do better, but as shitty as it seems, they have to follow their ToS. If they let those UI mods go, it seems that ToS is more of a guideline than a set of rules established to play the licensed game. I'm sure they would rather not ban the people that had the QoL UI mods, but they have to do it. Character customization is fine, its nothing compared to AoC or BDO character creation, but those games emphasize more so on that. I spend this game 90% of the time of my character facing forward rather than looking at me, so character creation is definitely on the bottom of the list for me. Housing < its definitely gotten better, it used to be way worse, and as you can see housing slots are open on every server. The way that it is designed will be based on server capacity. I like the concept they went for in establishing that you have neighbors, etc rather than having a instance where you are all alone, definitely if a RP community was to come together for a section of housing that part of the game can sky rocket. Job Balancing will always be broken < its what makes the game, complaining about it rather than providing insight does nothing to the solution, people forget that back in SB classes went as far as 8% apart in DPS, and I'm sure with 6.25 and 6.3 you will see classes get reworked or buffed. The issue is not the balance, its the way boss hitboxes are designed making Ranged a lot less useful over melee. It will be interesting to see what they do going forward.

[DragonFlyy]

If you pay attention to the live letters, they are working on updating the game graphically. Things like this are not done over night and take time, specially a game as large as this. Grant it there are UI improvements that need to be made, that some QoL mods do better, but as shitty as it seems, they have to follow their ToS. If they let those UI mods go, it seems that ToS is more of a guideline than a set of rules established to play the licensed game. I'm sure they would rather not ban the people that had the QoL UI mods, but they have to do it. Character customization is fine, its nothing compared to AoC or BDO character creation, but those games emphasize more so on that. I spend this game 90% of the time of my character facing forward rather than looking at me, so character creation is definitely on the bottom of the list for me. Housing < its definitely gotten better, it used to be way worse, and as you can see housing slots are open on every server. The way that it is designed will be based on server capacity. I like the concept they went for in establishing that you have neighbors, etc rather than having a instance where you are all alone, definitely if a RP community was to come together for a section of housing that part of the game can sky rocket. Job Balancing will always be broken < its what makes the game, complaining about it rather than providing insight does nothing to the solution, people forget that back in SB classes went as far as 8% apart in DPS, and I'm sure with 6.25 and 6.3 you will see classes get reworked or buffed. The issue is not the balance, its the way boss hitboxes are designed making Ranged a lot less useful over melee. It will be interesting to see what they do going forward.

While I agree with almost all you said, housing slots are not open on every server. Balmung is full, and without demo timer, there are no new houses each lottery. (Not that this has changed since the lottery implementation.)

[Darthgummibear]

When WoW's Cataclysm released and the game went off the rails the forums were filled with people who sounded just like this. Maybe if that period's detractors had been taken more seriously that game might still be worth playing and that same loud "everything is fine" group would have more than a toxic echo chamber.

[Thaciscokidd]

When WoW's Cataclysm released and the game went off the rails the forums were filled with people who sounded just like this.

I'll do you one better. The old EQ forums was like this before and during WoW's initial dropped.

[Raoabolic]

I'll do you one better. The old EQ forums was like this before and during WoW's initial dropped.

*EQ went the way of the whiteknights*
*Move to EQ2 to see if they do better*
*they add a cash shop to EQ that gives you exp/AA bonuses*
*the mounts in the cash shop gave buffs*
*Those people that chased me away from EQ are now in EQ2*
*They are actively defending the cash shop and telling others to leave if they hate it*
*Eventually leave when they lean way to heavy into the cash shop*
Geeze, perhaps I should give WoW a shot. This can't possibly happen a third time~!

[Midareyukki]

When WoW's Cataclysm released and the game went off the rails the forums were filled with people who sounded just like this. Maybe if that period's detractors had been taken more seriously that game might still be worth playing and that same loud "everything is fine" group would have more than a toxic echo chamber.

I'll do you one better. The old EQ forums was like this before and during WoW's initial dropped.

:x If I may ask, what exactly happened? Like, what are you referring to? And do you guys actually think 14 will go down the same way?

[SturmChurro]

And do you guys actually think 14 will go down the same way?

It could, but I think there'd need to be some new, major, competitors to the scene. Many will still stay due to it being FF though, and for the RP scene, etc. (although, housing is currently a big issue, and is lacking compared to even certain other current competitors)

[Midareyukki]

It could, but I think there'd need to be some new, major, competitors to the scene.

I don't really see that happening as it stands. FF14's grown rather large and is known for some stuff that other communities probably cannot boast.
But I'm sure so too did World of Warcraft. And that one was\still is rather large. Yet people keep mentioning Cataclysm like it was an actual cataclysm.

[SturmChurro]

I don't really see that happening as it stands. FF14's grown rather large and is known for some stuff that other communities probably cannot boast.
But I'm sure so too did World of Warcraft. And that one was\still is rather large. Yet people keep mentioning Cataclysm like it was an actual cataclysm.

Well, FFXIV has certain strengths, it has a loyal FF fanbase, a heavy RP scene (whether players like it or not), but it's quite lacking in terms of staying content. Much of the content that is introduced is seemingly abandoned by each expansion's end. This isn't even to mention many in the playerbase being split by story concerns, or job balancing.

Right now, there aren't really many actual competitors in the genre. Yeah, WoW does still have a fairly large playerbase, for the time being, but it's nothing like what it was. FFXIV "going the way of WoW" doesn't necessarily mean it would truly 'die', but we are definitely seeing the cracks forming in many different aspects.

Like a really big company with a game with a lot of fans, money, and stacking people with MMO skills.

Riot's MMO

There are two potential big competitors, although one might be fairly niche. Ashes of Creation, and Riot's new MMO. We'll have to wait and see how they go.