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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I mean, you're the one whose post immediately starts with a snide criticism.

    If anything, you utterly failed to read what has already been said. "saying thanks isn't praise", yes, we know. Just look up.
    "why are you still paying them money?" need I direct you over to this?
    Stuff like that isn't that clear-cut either, high horse down please.

    I swear, you skip over an entire thread and then you breed negativity with amazing quips as "common courtesy is obviously lost on most", and then people who complain over things are called out on being negative? You're no better!

    No, you're not being a shill. You're being something else entirely. People can still appreciate the game while pointing their flaws, yes? What else do you expect them to do, turn a blind eye? Because that won't happen every darn time, and you best get used to it.

    Tell me.

    Tell me to my face to turn a blind eye to the way they treated my race and the people who enjoy it and showed support for their own work by playing it.

    I dare you.



    Oh look, another one.

    I'm sorry, who's being immature? The guys telling you that SE has flaws and that being told about them isn't negativity, or the ones coming over and insulting people?

    Amazing job at being an adult, 10/10.
    Buddy the fact that you're responding so clearly defensive tells that you're being butthurt over people wanting for others to chill. Thats basic child behavior there. Nobody is saying that SE are never at fault for their own mistakes.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Buddy the fact that you're responding so much with such passive aggressiveness clearly tells that you're being butthurt over people wanting for others to chill. Thats basic child behavior there. Nobody is saying that SE are never at fault for their own mistakes.
    So excuse me, instead of admitting you've read none of what other people wrote before coming over and insulting the thread, you accuse me of being passive aggressive? Sure jan.

    At least admit your fault? Yeah, I'm passive aggressive, because I'm so tired of people not even reading what others posted and giving it a rest. Because here's the thing Atelier... YES there ARE people saying SE is never at fault. That's the point of this whole thread! And when we justify it as "We know they've done good things, but that doesn't excuse bad things", people go absolutely ballistic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    So excuse me, instead of admitting you've read none of what other people wrote before coming over and insulting the thread, you accuse me of being passive aggressive? Sure jan.

    At least admit your fault? Yeah, I'm passive aggressive, because I'm so tired of people not even reading what others posted and giving it a rest. Because here's the thing Atelier... YES there ARE people saying SE is never at fault. That's the point of this whole thread! And when we justify it as "We know they've done good things, but that doesn't excuse bad things", people go absolutely ballistic!
    Trying to argue one extreme with another extreme isnt also helping quell the situation either. Its honestly tiring seeing this community be so jaded with one another and the developers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Buddy the fact that you're responding so clearly defensive tells that you're being butthurt over people wanting for others to chill. Thats basic child behavior there.
    Personally, I find their statement "Tell me to my face to turn a blind eye to the way they treated my race ..." (emphasis added) more troubling than mere childish behavior. That level of projecting oneself into a video game character ... what should one make of it?

    I am not my characters. The lack of sufficient appropriate footwear and headgear options for my Viera fem characters is not SE treating me badly. It is just what it is, and if it ruined my experience playing my Viera characters, I've still got the free Fantasia they each got for completing ARR to change them to another race.
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    Its pointless to tell children how good they got it compared to other MMO or game devs that honestly dont care much to communicate to their own playerbase or almost all feedback falls on deaf ears.

    In today's current modern gaming age, it really is a godsend to have developers actually put in the effort that the FFXIV team does. If people want to continue to have this unhealthy unwarranted customer self-entitlement then they can go on and continue to be bitter rather than getting differing perspectives.

    No I'm not saying this because I'm a shill or a simp for SE, I'm just being an adult about not getting overly upset and or getting caught with the online drama llama whenever things dont go exactly as planned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Trying to argue one extreme with another extreme isnt also helping quell the situation either. Its honestly tiring seeing this community be so jaded with one another and the developers.
    you ain't helping the situation..,
    instead of deescalating, your adding kerosene
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    you ain't helping the situation..,
    instead of deescalating, your adding kerosene
    Yeah. I see this a lot around here. Seems like a fairly common tactic. Gotta escalate the situation just so they can say "See? They are irrationally angry over nothing!" when they weren't that way prior to being gaslit. That isn't every single person's intent who does this, but it certainly seems to be for a few regulars.
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    I think it's great to enjoy a game, I wouldn't be playing FFXIV if I didn't enjoy it. The devs are obviously doing something right in my opinion, since I'm playing their game over others. So thanks

    That said, putting a "thank you devs!!!" post up is almost always going to draw a crowd of people that dislike what the devs are doing, and when you make a post like this, you should expect some amount of backlash.
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    I tried .png.

    If this craps out, I'm blaming Atelier for giving me hopes that people in the forums could be civil >:U
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I tried .png.

    If this craps out, I'm blaming Atelier for giving me hopes that people in the forums could be civil >:U
    some can, some cant. its the way of the world.

    by the way.. I had read the entire thread before I decided to post, and didnt consider it snide as much as just a statement of fact. same with the thanks not being praise. difference in culture I expect, but thats how the world is

    anyway, not meaning to cause you to be more upset so, have a nice evening, unless that offends you as well.
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