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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    I'll just drop these and call it a night. I just hope the images work this time -._.- If not, I'll have to edit this again.


    - Other MMOs have adapted and introduced new concepts that we're constantly told is "impossible" to implement in the game
    - Users have been expressing their needs. It's not our fault you elect to ignore them. Again: ask any healer main.

    - "If the citizens disapprove, they will move". This seemed to be a concern of Yoshida's team back in ARR. So can we can it with the "if you don't like it, play something else" quips?
    - It's clear this dev team wanted to foster goodwill and try to not make decisions that don't match fan expectation and feedback. And that's what we've been seeing lately, awkward changes to the game and deaf ears to feedback that we just don't understand the point of.

    - What can other titles do that ours cannot? You mean transmog, removing limitations on gearsets, larger inventory capacity...?
    - Enough content? Sure. That I cannot deny. Is it good though? Debateable.
    - Anything lacking in the UI? We literally have threads on this, and Yoshida admitted looking into 3rd party tools to see what they offer so they can offer it legally.
    - Rewards, eh, YMMV
    - Long-term update plan? idk you tell me, what did you expect would happen with Viera and Hrothgar be released? Did you not see us asking you to finish it? Hmm...

    - Sure, I'll bite this thread's bait and say that not every complaint is good. I myself can be accused of this.
    But when your playerbase has been complaining for years and you're this inflexible? This arrogant to tell your healers to "go play Ultimate" and tell Hrothgars that "stuff's too hard" when all you need to do is change a boolean?
    Give me a break.
    We'll praise you when you do something praiseworthy. But we're not blind to flaws, and this image showed that they didn't want us to be!
    - "The silent leave first. Those who complain care." ... Now, if only these forums understood this...

    This I can't deny that they do, which is VERY commendable.
    On that note though, do any of them play Hrothgar? Do any of them play healer?
    Doubtful.

    I leave this one as homework. Think on it.
    It's Square's own words.
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    Not saying turn a blind eye to the complaints. Saying that they also need a thanks behind all the flak they got. Criticize then praise.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaineIV View Post
    Not saying turn a blind eye to the complaints. Saying that they also need a thanks behind all the flak they got. Criticize then praise.
    I prefer to praise them when they deserve it. It doesn't, and shouldn't, happen automatically.
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaineIV View Post
    Not saying turn a blind eye to the complaints. Saying that they also need a thanks behind all the flak they got. Criticize then praise.
    I agree with you 100%. I think the only complaint I have and not because it affects me but it does indeed affect others is the hrothgar/viera situation. It's been several years and there has been no word on a fix...when 3rd party tools have fixed it years ago. I'm shocked they just haven't implemented yet.

    Other than that...I'm in the same boat with you and think the devs try really hard and I know for a fact that development work is extremely hard to do.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    I agree with you 100%. I think the only complaint I have and not because it affects me but it does indeed affect others is the hrothgar/viera situation. It's been several years and there has been no word on a fix...when 3rd party tools have fixed it years ago. I'm shocked they just haven't implemented yet.

    Other than that...I'm in the same boat with you and think the devs try really hard and I know for a fact that development work is extremely hard to do.
    I think if you are talking about the helmet situation, perhaps they may implement it in the future. QoL mods are out there, people use them, and sadly to say SE will enforce ToS as bad as it is and they will probably be banned if reported, then implemented later. This should be a seperate post, but if someone was banned for a QoL UI mod and its implemented later, they should remove that ban on that person. That is a completely different post though.

    As you can see by my profile picture, I have a viera with the Pandaemonium tier 2 helmet on. However its treated more like a mask than a helmet but looks like a helmet. So I think they are making progress towards that, and just need the time to put it in. There will always be someone out there that will have a QoL feature that the devs either didn't empiment, or completely forgot. Its the nature of every game.
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    Last edited by AlaineIV; 09-18-2022 at 06:47 AM. Reason: Added lines

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    Your job doesn't thank you for doing the bare minimum to not get fired. The devs don't get a gold star for doing what the fuck they're supposed to do. When they mess up, I call them out on it. When they do something awesome, I give them props for it. End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhNooo View Post
    Your job doesn't thank you for doing the bare minimum to not get fired. The devs don't get a gold star for doing what the fuck they're supposed to do. When they mess up, I call them out on it. When they do something awesome, I give them props for it. End of story.
    The bare minimum was 1.0. I think the game is better than 1.0.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Marel Nobelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    The bare minimum was 1.0. I think the game is better than 1.0.
    Wow that's a pretty low bar to have. There's a reason 1.0 got literally blown up by a moon. Do you have any standards whatsoever?

    Next lowest thing would be saying 6.0 was the bare minimum LOL
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    Booooooo shill
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    I do show my appreciation when it's earned, but I'd like to think my monthly subscription in itself is a perfect demonstration of my gratitude and love for the game... I hope the developers know that at least.

    I know the forums are usually full of negative comments and sometimes people may come across harsh, but it all comes from a loving place. We are here because we care about the state of the game and wish to see it thrive, while continuing to see QoL improvements and high quality patches that reflect the playerbase FFXIV has.
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    Square Enix have extorted money from Viera and Hrothgar's limitations, but from the outside looking in it seems barely any of that money is invested back into the limited races. How much money have they made from players
    fantasia'ing to and from the limited races? We want more race-exclusive hair.
    We want them improved, and we want it done within a reasonable time.

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