What Zero Could've Been

[VictorTheed]

I hate to break it to you, but the majority of the world would rather play games full of women like this in the spotlight:



Than women like this:



The males of this game aren’t all that impressive either, with Midlanders being a bit too wimpy for my liking, male Viera having little to no distinctions between them and their female counterparts, highlanders lacking eyebrows for no valid reason, and Roegadyn/Hrothgar builds not being designed with what people who like playing large races have in mind. Short of the middle ground of Au Ra, there’s nothing in FFXIV that resembles the male characters I play in other rpgs and mmorpgs.

In any case, this game has no content anyway and if the story is going to be carried by Zero, Y’shtola, and god forbid Krile along with the men who don’t have much going for them then around 7.0 I’ll probably not shift my attention away from FFVII: Rebirth and continue replaying FFXVI where I can hang out with Clive, a traditionally attractive male hero, and the temptress Benedickta. A seductive woman who uses her charms the way she does will be a refreshing new sort of character for the series, and I’m greatly looking forward to the interactions she’ll bring both to the table and elsewhere. Also really looking forward to Hugo throwing his weight around, couldn’t have asked for a better human representation of Titan. Certainly better than Ga Bu.



People who are into niche tastes like they are here shouldn’t have the run of the place, especially not when it comes to stuff like how the genders should look and act. Under normal circumstances you’re not going to be able to sell someone a game where women are as plain as Y’shtola while “slaying” the men who interact with them while the protagonist faction men are overly emotional and feminine like G’raha and Alphinaud, with Thancred and Estinien acting as the party’s muscle while being cast aside by the main story, along with both having their visual designs made more boring.

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I think Y'shtola is pretty, but I don't like her cause she acts like a bitch, I wish Emet Selch would have left her dead back in Rak'tika Greatwoods.

I'd rather him have revived Milfilia, I mean Minfilia.

[MagiusNecros]

I'd rather him have revived Milfilia, I mean Minfilia.

Always disappointed me they killed off Minfilia. Character got robbed big time.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Always disappointed me they killed off Minfilia. Character got robbed big time.

But everyone hated minfilia and said she had no character....

[MagiusNecros]

But everyone hated minfilia and said she had no character....

Disagree. Especially given her prominence in 1.0 if one knows where to look.

They really got into a habit of killing off some of their characters in Realm Reborn. Minfilia and Moenbryda among these.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Disagree. Especially given her prominence in 1.0 if one knows where to look.

They really got into a habit of killing off some of their characters in Realm Reborn. Minfilia and Moenbryda among these.

The forums were full of people making threads on how much they disliked minfilia during 2.0.

[MagiusNecros]

The forums were full of people making threads on how much they disliked minfilia during 2.0.

You should know by now that this forum you and I included are just a vocal minority.

Minfilia's role became being used by Venat and giving birth to a new character in Ryne.

I like Ryne but also feel that Minfilia was done a disservice.

With teleportation magic there were clear consequences with Minfilia but it seems Yshtola is immune to these.

Falls back on the writing team. It's disappointing but here we are.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You should know by now that this forum you and I included are just a vocal minority.

Minfilia's role became being used by Venat and giving birth to a new character in Ryne.

I like Ryne but also feel that Minfilia was done a disservice.

With teleportation magic there were clear consequences with Minfilia but it seems Yshtola is immune to these.

Falls back on the writing team. It's disappointing but here we are.

Ahh, so you agree it's only a minority who dislike venat and graha, and think endwalker was bad.

[SannaR]

Disagree. Especially given her prominence in 1.0 if one knows where to look.

They really got into a habit of killing off some of their characters in Realm Reborn. Minfilia and Moenbryda among these.

Part of the problem with Minfillia is that anyone joining XIV post it's relaunch tends to not have as deep of a connection with her as she does spend most of ARR behind her desk. Only being shown to "do her job" I want to say twice as I want to say we walk in on a linkshell conversation with Krile and then during a conversation with us she gets an important linkshell ding. Then she isn't seen as a strong character because she never is shown fighting.

There's many who don't think her decision to go with the Garleans in order to stop any more killing as what a strong leader would do. Then that kidnapping and the one Nabrialis gets played up as her getting kidnapped all the time some how. That one being Midgardsormr's fault due to what he did to the WoL's Blessing of Light. I know a lot say they would want to be shown more of her skills as a diplomat ect but I'm also fairly certain that if we did see her do they'd probably complain about the pacing or how much longer the already fairly long ARR cutscenes and msq was. Even after they cut some of the chaff many still feel its still too long.

Now imagine if we got a scene where you walked into the waking sands around the time the Scions were deciding in where to move to where a representative from each city state and someone like Hancock from ETC was leaving her office arguing about the meeting and either glaring at the WoL or asking them to do something to change that woman's mind. All the while leading into one of the other existing CSes where we check base with her. You know a character many have called unbearable. Even if we ignore those who say such things about her character while just wanting to meme.

[aveyond-dreams]

Always disappointed me they killed off Minfilia. Character got robbed big time.

Having her defect to team Zodiark after she was manipulated by Hydaelyn would've served to make her more compelling, sadly such ideas don't seem to even be anywhere on the radar of the writing team.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Having her defect to team Zodiark after she was manipulated by Hydaelyn would've served to make her more compelling, sadly such ideas don't seem to even be anywhere on the radar of the writing team.

The real problem was zodiark was a 3 so he couldn't talk to minfilia.