What Zero Could've Been

[Sweetness]

I don't think that Y'shtola with the combination of her lackluster appearence and personality gives her the same sort of pass that someone like Yotsuyu or Bayonetta gets when it comes to how they treat men. If someone is a 3, they shouldn't be treating guys like Magnai who I'll just say are 7s or 8 as if they were a 2. Also, Runar deserved someone better who was more emotionally receptive and less arrogant, especially given his warm nature. This isn't even controversial, it's how the world works.

yshtola is a little bland as a character, but you couldn’t have written this in a less /niceguys way?

[TheMightyMollusk]

I don't think that Y'shtola with the combination of her lackluster appearence and personality gives her the same sort of pass that someone like Yotsuyu or Bayonetta gets when it comes to how they treat men. If someone is a 3, they shouldn't be treating guys like Magnai who I'll just say are 7s or 8 as if they were a 2. Also, Runar deserved someone better who was more emotionally receptive and less arrogant, especially given his warm nature. This isn't even controversial, it's how the world works.

This is such a shallow take, I just stepped in it and my feet stayed dry.

[Syln]

This is such a shallow take, I just stepped in it and my feet stayed dry.

... that was funny... "go back eat his popcorn"

[Seera1024]

I don't think that Y'shtola with the combination of her lackluster appearence and personality gives her the same sort of pass that someone like Yotsuyu or Bayonetta gets when it comes to how they treat men. If someone is a 3, they shouldn't be treating guys like Magnai who I'll just say are 7s or 8 as if they were a 2. Also, Runar deserved someone better who was more emotionally receptive and less arrogant, especially given his warm nature. This isn't even controversial, it's how the world works.

Beauty is subjective and while you might think someone is a 3, someone might think they are a 10. And vice versa. It's how people you think are ugly manage to find partners. Because they've found someone who finds them attractive.

A person's personality and their appearance are completely separate things, regardless of how beautiful they are. Anyone of any beauty can be sassy to men who flirt with them.

[aveyond-dreams]

A person's personality and their appearance are completely separate things, regardless of how beautiful they are. Anyone of any beauty can be sassy to men who flirt with them.

That's true, but the combination Y'shtola has going on makes her a character whose presence I can only barely tolerate. It's like as if she was a librarian in the game making light of other people, just really offputting and not what people look for in heroines.

[VelKallor]

It's like as if she was a librarian in the game making light of other people, just really offputting and not what people look for in heroines.

Wut?

How do you know what people look for? Batgirl was a librarian and a heroine, countless others...btw who says men cant be nurturing and kind?

[CidHeiral]

I don't think that Y'shtola with the combination of her lackluster appearence and personality gives her the same sort of pass that someone like Yotsuyu or Bayonetta gets when it comes to how they treat men. If someone is a 3, they shouldn't be treating guys like Magnai who I'll just say are 7s or 8 as if they were a 2. Also, Runar deserved someone better who was more emotionally receptive and less arrogant, especially given his warm nature.

This isn't even controversial, it's how the world works. Bad attitude, nothing going on with her looks, topped off with the Mary Sue thing and I am bewildered as to why I'm supposed to find this character likeable or why she of all people gets to be this game's postergirl.

"Women can only sass men if I think they're hot, otherwise they should know their place and shut up."



The fact that you think Magnai's horse-faced goober ass is a 7 or 8 speaks volumes. This is the same guy who flips out every time a tiny female challenges his masculinity and is constantly rejected by every woman he meets.

[TaleraRistain]

I don't think that Y'shtola with the combination of her lackluster appearence and personality gives her the same sort of pass that someone like Yotsuyu or Bayonetta gets when it comes to how they treat men.

Aveyond, why don't you leave it up to us females to decide how we behave and look and interact with the world? We don't need your help.

[Rannie]

Aveyond, why don't you leave it up to us females to decide how we behave and look and interact with the world? We don't need your help.

Agreed 100% on this. I'm my own person. I don't need a man to tell me how to act, look and speak.

It's like a lot of people say Zero has just been introduced and they're slowly working on fleshing her out. I'd rather them do that then just throw it all in my face at once.

[MagiusNecros]

Yshtola's downfall will be her quest for knowledge. The fact she is writing a memoir must mean her time is just about up or getting close. But since Yshtola makes Square Enix a lot of money I wager she is going to get a macguffin that makes her perceived low life expectancy disappear. Matoya will probably do a thing to save her Miqote prodigy from her dumb decisions.

Yshtola is a poor man's Shantotto at best.