What Zero Could've Been

[aveyond-dreams]

There’s nothing controversial of my take of not having women with such similar personality traits in the cast, and for them to revisit what made previous FF heroines greater than the likes of Y’shtola whose treatment of the people around her make her a detestable character and party member who should’ve been told off for her behavior ages ago, especially with the disdain and indifference with which she treats the men who dare to commit the sin of wanting to get closer to her or in Runar’s case, making the mistake of caring about her in a deep way.

She’s no Bayonetta to get away with that “sass” nor are the guys she rejects creepy old dudes where such sassy rejections would’ve been a lot more warranted, and where I would’ve gladly cheered her on after having no small amount of unfortunate similar experiences with being approached by men who had no business coming anywhere near me.

Zero, while not terrible, isn’t exactly the sort of female party member I’d add in to a mix of her, Y’shtola, and Krile. I would’ve rather seen that slot been taken up by a woman who leans more into the feminine type, as opposed to hey just look at me I’m strong pay me and I can solve your voidsent problem by just hitting things and turning them into rocks. A seductive demoness would’ve also been nice, but I guess G’raha Tia is supposed to fill that role, in an entirely forceful and unreciprocated manner with the player having 0 agency in such advances.

[Raoabolic]

Maybe they just need to relax some, maybe eat a burger or two.

It's funny to me tho that the people claiming they are being silenced are the ones putting those who disagree with them on ignore because they don't really have any counterpoints.

There's no real discussion to be had either, most of the time. "this is my point, if you disagree you shouldn't because I'm right" doesn't really make much for legit discussions. Especially when actual productive responses are completely ignored.

The OP pretty much abandoned this thread after it didn't go the way they thought it would. They probably thought they'd have more backup but even their most staunch defenders don't seem to want to touch their hot takes with a 10 foot pole lol.

lol, opening up with a not to subtle dig? Joke's on you, I don't even take the story seriously anymore~!

[Vahlnir]

There’s nothing controversial of my take of not having women with such similar personality traits in the cast, and for them to revisit what made previous FF heroines greater than the likes of Y’shtola whose treatment of the people around her make her a detestable character and party member who should’ve been told off for her behavior ages ago, especially with the disdain and indifference with which she treats the men who dare to commit the sin of wanting to get closer to her or in Runar’s case, making the mistake of caring about her in a deep way.

She’s no Bayonetta to get away with that “sass” nor are the guys she rejects creepy old dudes where such sassy rejections would’ve been a lot more warranted, and where I would’ve gladly cheered her on after having no small amount of unfortunate similar experiences with being approached by men who had no business coming anywhere near me.

Zero, while not terrible, isn’t exactly the sort of female party member I’d add in to a mix of her, Y’shtola, and Krile. I would’ve rather seen that slot been taken up by a woman who leans more into the feminine type, as opposed to hey just look at me I’m strong pay me and I can solve your voidsent problem by just hitting things and turning them into rocks. A seductive demoness would’ve also been nice, but I guess G’raha Tia is supposed to fill that role, in an entirely forceful and unreciprocated manner with the player having 0 agency in such advances.

[RukoBoshi]

A seductive demoness would’ve also been nice, but I guess G’raha Tia is supposed to fill that role.

Wait what ? G'raha Tia, filling the role of a seductive demoness ?

[Kazhar]

Zero, while not terrible, isn’t exactly the sort of female party member I’d add in to a mix of her, Y’shtola, and Krile. I would’ve rather seen that slot been taken up by a woman who leans more into the feminine type, as opposed to hey just look at me I’m strong pay me and I can solve your voidsent problem by just hitting things and turning them into rocks.

Krile is literally my least favorite of the Scions but even I can see that this description is completely at odds with what we know of her.
I'd even say that she leans very heavily into the stereotypically feminine character archetype you say this game is completely devoid of.

[Yencat]

Wait what ? G'raha Tia, filling the role of a seductive demoness ?

Oh, you hadn't heard? He's a home-wrecking sexual harasser now.

[aveyond-dreams]

Wait what ? G'raha Tia, filling the role of a seductive demoness ?

In the sense that he continues to terrorize the player character in every scene he appears in and can’t keep his hands off them. A demon by way of that and more a clingy sort of creature whose attempts at seduction and getting close to my character fail repeatedly because he acts so strangely. A pity that they couldn’t at least have done us the favor of making him conventionally attractive if he was going to behave in such a manner.

[Hurlstone]

Krile is literally my least favorite of the Scions but even I can see that this description is completely at odds with what we know of her.
I'd even say that she leans very heavily into the stereotypically feminine character archetype you say this game is completely devoid of.

I agree, if any of the female scions lean into that sterotype its her (And perhaps Tataru ) though that could be due to the fact that out of all of the Scions, she is the one who has had by far the least devlopment. I am looking foward to that changing in 7.0!

Wait what ? G'raha Tia, filling the role of a seductive demoness ?

I think that burger scene really did a number on aveyond...

[Yencat]

In the sense that he continues to terrorize the player character in every scene he appears in and can’t keep his hands off them. A demon by way of that and more a clingy sort of creature whose attempts at seduction and getting close to my character fail repeatedly because he acts so strangely. A pity that they couldn’t at least have done us the favor of making him conventionally attractive if he was going to behave in such a manner.

When was this? I must have missed a few scenes where this happened.

Also when you're being "terrorized" by someone and touched against your will it really doesn't matter if someone is conventionally attractive or not, gross.

[hobostew]

In the sense that he continues to terrorize the player character in every scene he appears in and can’t keep his hands off them.

Sounds like your own personal headcanon. To each their own though lol