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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The real problem was zodiark was a 3 so he couldn't talk to minfilia.
    LMAO Valk I gave my monitor a good spray of soda with that one.
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    Saimeren Stons
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    Summoner Lv 90
    What I'm getting from this is that you want a Bayonetta/Vrtra/Y'Shtola combo glam.

    And I'm here for it. I see your not so hidden message.
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    Adorable creatures with unacceptable features!

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    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Kazek Amilia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thenightvortex View Post
    I’ve read through this thread and didn’t notice anything relating to trans people. Maybe it’s you who wants to make it about them.
    Gender role discussion is at the very least adjacent
    to trans identity, since it's is a subversion of the concept. And since this place had a lot of very heated debate about trans people, there are reason to find the current direction of the thread suspect.

    As I said previously anyway, this thread has run out of all of its original material and it's all downhill from now. Especially since we're now in a "here's what the majority REALLY wants" trend that would make even Striker44 blush.
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    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Valamist Hurlstone
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    The OP certainly seems to have a grudge against Y’shtola. Shame, outside of her habit of throwing herself into the life stream I think she is an awesome character. I like how the game does not stereotype much of its cast by their gender in the way some RPG games do, like how in the twins its the boy who is the healer/more intellectual of the pair, whilst the girl is the more hot-headed frontline fighter. It should be noted that whilst they may not be popular with the OP and others, overall the playerbase seems to have embraced them. I am not saying that we should not have like, sexy seductress characters or muscle bound hunks (What about a seductive sexy guy?) more variety in character is always a boon, and we will likely be seeing more of that in 7.0, but thats the default for so many games and I think it would be a shame, and unnecessary, to try and make FFXIV fit such a mould when instead it could do its own thing.
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    Last edited by Hurlstone; 09-20-2022 at 12:51 AM.

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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I like how the game does not stereotype much of its cast by their gender in the way some RPG games do, like how in the twins its the boy who is the healer/more intellectual of the pair, whilst the girl is the more hot-headed frontline fighter.
    more variety in character is always a boon, and we will likely be seeing more of that in 7.0, but thats the default for so many games and I think it would be a shame, and unnecessary, to try and make FFXIV fit such a mould when instead it could do its own thing.
    SO MUCH this.
    I was surprised to see Alisaie take on a Combat role, while Alphinaud took on the Support Healer Role. These were good design choices as it also fit their personalities.
    I LOVE RPGs...but lately I have been pretty bored of them because just about ALL of them follow the same Formula for Casting. Diversity Good, but I feel like its lacking when its the same tropes.
    FFXIV has won me over partially because of its cast and how its not the same typical casting. Plus I love how everyone has developed.
    Always looking foreword to more
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    Aexnidaral's Avatar
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    Yrys Huorlwesfv
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    Always disheartening to see the same people use their queerness for easily exploitable cover to deflect from some of their truly terrible takes.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexnidaral View Post
    Always disheartening to see the same people use their queerness for easily exploitable cover to deflect from some of their truly terrible takes.
    Why, worried they'll intrude on your monopoly?

    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Oh for sure. Character complaints towards Venat, Graha, Scions and Zenos is a minority problem just like it is with job balance among raiders. A lot of players in the 20 something million playerbase aren't going to care and instead play the game.
    Try 1.3m. The most it's ever peaked at is 1.7m.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Try 1.3m. The most it's ever peaked at is 1.7m.
    Active players yes. Total players over time is 24 million. So essentially 1.3 million players are still playing the game but I wager that a large majority of that number aren't putzing around on the Official Forums.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Active players yes. Total players over time is 24 million. So essentially 1.3 million players are still playing the game but I wager that a large majority of that number aren't putzing around on the Official Forums.
    I don't disagree, though that goes for any of the sites the game's discussed on.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexnidaral View Post
    Always disheartening to see the same people use their queerness for easily exploitable cover to deflect from some of their truly terrible takes.
    LGBT people are not here for the convenience of pushing and sharing your exact thoughts, feelings and opinions. Especially those of us who aren't even part of the same country and culture as you are.
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