OHKOs is Lazy Boss Design

[LilyPendragon]

My thoughts exactly. It measures reflexes, but it doesn't measure your skill or ability to play your class properly. Mashing 3-4 buttons is NOT class mastery. Then again, people love mechanics.

I don't think this game tests reflexes at all [unless it's that fight at the end of Endwalker of course ]. It's almost entirely rote memorisation of mechanics. The true test of job mastery comes from the naughty funny colours website, aside from that it doesn't really matter as long as you clear

[Rilifane]

I think some OHKO mechanics are fine if used sparringly but I'm not a fan of them in general either.
They are binary, they leave no options, no room for reaction, nothing. If you're supposed to spread but two markers stack, them getting blown up is fine for me. Same as aiming a knockback you can't immune poorly and getting punted into something lethal or mistiming your immunity and sail over the edge.

But healers desperately need some form of skill expression and following a cooking recipe of "counter raidwide with skill x every 2min" because the rest can't be healed isn't it. I want something that rewards fast reaction and good thinking not being treated like I'm incapable of fulfilling my role outside of perfectly scripted, SE-approved unavoidable damage that occurs every 1min/ 2min to make it even easier for me to handle.
Thinking of everything that can make someone else do something differently than they planned to as "punishing, should be eliminated" seriously hurts encounter and class design. Vuln stacks limit the amount of mechanics you can eat, be it by accident or calculation for uptime/ mechanic cheese, but they also give the party more freedom on how to solve mechanics and healers an opportunity to show their skill. Any form of dots are also a good option. Or even a heavy and it's up to the healer to rescue the person into the safe zone for the next mechanic if they don't have some form of teleport/ dash.
Healers are already wrapped in enough cotton wool as it is, no need to remove even more things that may give them something to do.

I often encourage a party in Sigma to just ignore the adds, I'll heal through the stacks or a BLM to just stay in their Ley Lines instead of cancelling a Flare for a noodle aoe. I can heal through it easily and without loss, give me the option to do that. But the moment you add damage downs, especially in endgame content, or OHKOs you take that option away and instead leave me to only heal perfectly predictable, scripted and limited unavoidable damage or Swift Raise.

[Deceptus]

I often encourage a party in Sigma to just ignore the adds, I'll heal through the stacks or a BLM to just stay in their Ley Lines instead of cancelling a Flare for a noodle aoe. I can heal through it easily and without loss, give me the option to do that. But the moment you add damage downs, especially in endgame content, or OHKOs you take that option away and instead leave me to only heal perfectly predictable, scripted and limited unavoidable damage or Swift Raise.

Same. "Self Destruct" hits like a wet noodle and I routinely advise just ignoring them.

[Wolwosh]

Why do we have health bars? D:

[MagiusNecros]

I liked Reginae and similar duties that allowed 2-3 screwups before you got screwed.

[Deceptus]

I liked Reginae and similar duties that allowed 2-3 screwups before you got screwed.

I allowed 2 screwups, with death on the 2nd screwup.

Which completely negated the HP and Healing Resistance honors.

What's the point of them if 2 screwups means instant death?

[JamieRose]

Since people are asking I will make a clarification. Note this is just one of many examples.

I was doing P7N last night and I have to say this is my least favorite of the new tier because many of the mechanics are difficult to read and failing them results in death. I think I died five times last night, one time when I died I have no idea what killed me, but it lead to one of many "chain death" occurrences. I was hardly the only one having trouble because several people had multiple deaths in that fight. I'm a SCH main and while no one has hit me with "Healers Adjust!" it definitely makes my job more difficult when I'm having to stop DPS and refreshing shields to have rez people, especially when it forces me to hard cast rez because the RDM isn't helping out. (That's for another topic tho.) It's incredibly aggravating to have to deal with this and it makes the game not fun. This is the only one in the Abyssos tier I have trouble with because it's nothing but knockoffs and disappearing platforms which is the kind of BS I expect to see in Savage where one fuck up generally renders the entire fight a failure.

[Enjuden]

Since people are asking I will make a clarification. Note this is just one of many examples.

I was doing P7N last night and I have to say this is my least favorite of the new tier because many of the mechanics are difficult to read and failing them results in death. I think I died five times last night, one time when I died I have no idea what killed me, but it lead to one of many "chain death" occurrences. I was hardly the only one having trouble because several people had multiple deaths in that fight. I'm a SCH main and while no one has hit me with "Healers Adjust!" it definitely makes my job more difficult when I'm having to stop DPS and refreshing shields to have rez people, especially when it forces me to hard cast rez because the RDM isn't helping out. (That's for another topic tho.) It's incredibly aggravating to have to deal with this and it makes the game not fun. This is the only one in the Abyssos tier I have trouble with because it's nothing but knockoffs and disappearing platforms which is the kind of BS I expect to see in Savage where one fuck up generally renders the entire fight a failure.

So the fight that tells you everything way in advance, where there's a giant arena that has damage based on how close you are to the center isn't a good enough warning after 90 levels of seeing that mechanic? Or the chevrons with a gigantic tree limb behind it?

Growth should be encouraged in an mmo. You're jumping into non MSQ. Get used to it.

[Imora]

When I play rdm I get yelled at for rezzing.

I just let the healer do it unless:

Healers mana bar is emptier than my gas tank
Healer(s) is/are dead
Healer asks me

[Ransu]

When I play rdm I get yelled at for rezzing.

I just let the healer do it unless:

Healers mana bar is emptier than my gas tank
Healer(s) is/are dead
Healer asks me

What? That's literally one of the main reasons prog groups bring RDM with them lol.