Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
Damage Downs are far more prevalent in Savage+ as a punishment for failing mechanics, cuts your damage by 50%(?). I think it last 30 secs?
I believe Vuln stacks are anything Extreme and below.

Funnily enough, in the most recent Ultimate, if people got a Damage Down, they'd throw themselves into the death wall during downtime, cause the revive debuff gave the same damage reduction, but didn't last as long.
Yeah, normal punishes the Healers for the messup of others more often than not.

Other fights punish the dps for messing up and greeding. Sometimes everybody gets damage down, too but vuln ups are less of an "issue" than damage down.
At least for anybody but the healers because you screw up and just get a vuln up? Eh, healer can take care of it.

Sometimes the vuln up doesn't even do anything (looking at you hades EX where it was easier to just eat one vuln up, you could even shield enough to not get it in the first place, on release), damage down is honestly better but woe is me