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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Scholar Lv 100

    OHKOs is Lazy Boss Design

    I will never understand Squeenix and their obsession with throwing an endless barrage of OHKOs at people during boss fights. It's inelegant, exasperating and frankly quite lazy. Can you hire someone to make a boss fight that isn't just endlessly dodging a parade of attacks that throw you off the arena?

    I don't recall buying this game so I could play Soul Calibur.

    Edit: Since people are asking I will make a clarification. Note this is just one of many examples.

    I was doing P7N last night and I have to say this is my least favorite of the new tier because many of the mechanics are difficult to read and failing them results in death. I think I died five times last night, one time when I died I have no idea what killed me, but it lead to one of many "chain death" occurrences. I was hardly the only one having trouble because several people had multiple deaths in that fight. I'm a SCH main and while no one has hit me with "Healers Adjust!" it definitely makes my job more difficult when I'm having to stop DPS and refreshing shields to have rez people, especially when it forces me to hard cast rez because the RDM isn't helping out. (That's for another topic tho.) It's incredibly aggravating to have to deal with this and it makes the game not fun. This is the only one in the Abyssos tier I have trouble with because it's nothing but knockoffs and disappearing platforms which is the kind of BS I expect to see in Savage where one fuck up generally renders the entire fight a failure.

    Edit 2: I like how people keep assuming I wasn't in a situation where the RDM needed to be helping with Rez because a healer was down or there were more than 2 down at once.
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    Last edited by JamieRose; 09-17-2022 at 05:00 AM.

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    Just do the mechanic.
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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsonBlacke View Post
    Just do the mechanic.
    What an amazing response from the people who brought you "GIT GUD" and "JUST UNINSTALL".
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    OHKO's are a punishment for not respecting the mechanics or in some cases, not using Arm's Length/Surecast.
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by weebtext View Post
    OHKO's are a punishment for not respecting the mechanics or in some cases, not using Arm's Length/Surecast.
    This is basically half their use(or Surecast's only use really...).

    Getting knocked off platforms is annoying at the start, but you get used to it over time. It's also a good feeling when you do mechs correctly because instant death from getting knocked off is actually a punishing mechanic. There's not many punishing mechanics out there to be really, really honest.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    What an amazing response from the people who brought you "GIT GUD" and "JUST UNINSTALL".
    They aren't wrong though. Every fight is a "dance" of sorts. Learn the moves, survive the fight. I'm all for more interesting boss encounters, but this isn't something I consider a problem personally.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    What an amazing response from the people who brought you "GIT GUD" and "JUST UNINSTALL".
    Git Good.
    Yes

    Just Uninstall
    No, nobody said that, nobody wants that. This isnt a Call of Duty lobby or a Moba. We actually like and want people to play our game
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    MegaOddly's Avatar
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    Teysa Oddly
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    He is right though. Just because you want to stand in a corner and only do casting instead of actually avoiding damage. If damage only went to the Tank the game wouldn't be fun.
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    First of all, basically all the responses above.

    Second of all:
    - what fight?
    - what difficulty?
    - how experienced (Personal and members)?
    - actual one-shot (like Ramuh's Stratospear -> Judgment Bolt doing 999,999) or you stand in areas taking multiple damage instances?

    Addendum, dying in a fight isn't a shame and not something you are supposed to feel bad about, it's supposed to be a teaching mechanism that hits harder than just giving you a -50% DMG down or a +25% vuln up.

    If certain things didn't just outright kill you, you'd just learn to min-max of how to not die to them, regardless of how much of a ball-ache it is to tanks and healers shielding you if you aren't exactly shielding yourself instead of just learning how to do things right over time.
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    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Kazek Amilia
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    Do you want your healers to carry their way to the victory? Because OHKO mechanics coupled with decent enrage is a pretty good way to prevent that.
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