Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
It's almost as if I said "if support is balanced against support it's okay" and gave an explicit example of some support v support balance that would be fine on DPS, and then gave an alternate example of support v damage that I think isn't. You can waffle at me about "It's a static issue, not a game issue" but there were enough PLD and WAR booted from groups for lack of damage that they needed an explicit buff this patch. I get the fantasy you're looking for, but the way you and the dev team are going about it doesn't create the choice you're thinking it does; it creates a "right" and "wrong" choice.
(Sorry for the cut, not enough size, not trying to take you outta context just read above)
All casters getting a raise would be a "solution" then people will complain if casters do less then melees because of the raise tax.
In early savage tiers generally casters like RDM/SMN are picked over BLM to help learn the fight, but all are generally viable, This tier was different because of how tight the enrage was, I'm pretty sure even then summoner was used, once you've cleared once, you will get better gear, I doubt any groups will care enough if you go BLM or RDM because the check is going to not be a problem, Your point with BLM makes sense, it would become a really annoying balancing act of making sure RDM does enough damage to make dps checks not stupid, but also make it so BLM damage is worth bringing.

I understand your point, I think Paladin was even less used then warrior because it's defensives sucked so much (blocks not working with Dots, HG being so high of a invul, lacking defensives for useless stuff like "cover" and one extra raid wide), so it's obvious utility does have a point to a degree, DPS is generally always more important when checks are very high. Warrior was very popular last tier because of 1. Ease of use and 2. high self healing very strong defensively, despite jobs like gunbreaker and dark knight performing better, which again shows people generally like utility in jobs and "defence" (Tanks are different but even then DPS is going to be preferd).

Maybe we could just give all casters raise? (Just BLM but future caster in 7.0 hopefully?) I don't really think it's the best solution but it's better then raise being removed.