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    Rithris Amaya
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Main issue is, and the reason a passive raise tax is a thing, is if RDM and BLM do comparable damage but RDM brings a safety net, there is no incentive to bring BLM. On the opposite end, you have no reason to bring Red Mage if its damage is so low that after learning the fight the guy you have playing it needs to swap to BLM and partially relearn the fight anyway.

    The issue of giving DPS non-damage "support" comes multiple times. 1: this game is so focused on dps that even healers and tanks are hard focused on it. 2: if dps is balanced against support instead of other support options (ie: if RDM brought raise 1/min but BLM brought reraise 1/90sec) and that was the balance or choice? Sure that's a variety thats ok. But "9000 dps but no raise vs 8000 dps but raise" is a recipe for fracturing an entire role's balance.
    I'll just have to disagree with you then, I believe it's fine for DPS to have support options outside of "damage"

    While yes on paper the Optimal play once the fight is done, they should switch to black mage, for a slightly quicker reclear.
    Funny that in reality that the DPS check doesn't warrant a swap (Unless we're talking about p8s pre nerf but that's overtuned and rdm and other jobs are doing too little) no one is bothered if you switch to BLM or keep red mage and if a static seriously forces you to switch of RDM just because it's slightly worse maybe it's a problem with the static? not the game design.

    Even in recleans it's arguably that raise can be useful but obviously it's a lot less useful, but at that point you've likely got better gear theirs not going to be a DPS check struggle? I just don't think the argument that people will force people off red mage, if your job isn't making the raid struggle to clear whats even the issue with bringing a red mage? you've cleared with it before and now the group likely has better gear? where's the struggle

    Raise tax should exist but be reduced, but overall all casters don't need a ranged tax, PHYS ranged doesn't need a harsh ranged tax, I wanna keep the unique support aspects about red mage, support is fine and should exist, I get you want to play red mage for the spell blade aspect, I love sword casters but I don't think most people (yes casual players, some hardcore players) wouldn't be happy with any sort of removal.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 09-18-2022 at 03:59 AM.