Thread: Patch 6.21 - DPS Roles & the State of Endgame Balance

Originally Posted by RylaBee

MCH is clearly intened to be selfish DPS among phranged. Its what makes it different and very usefull in content, where there is no-one you can buff except yourself.
Why would you want to hang utility on it and get it taxed in aDPS?
What it needs are numbers and perhaps rotation rework.


Curing Walts being "massive, all rounder utility that can be equal to a Cure III" is quite loaded statement.

I haven't seen the math lately, but it used to be healer potency for heals was point-for-point equal to about 1.9 dps potency. Thats is 90% difference.
Basically, stacked 300+300pt Waltz would heal about ~55% of 600pt Cure III (if someone has new numbers, feel free to update).

I really dont see healers forgoing healing, when whole party bleeds after new juicy raid-wides, because they are counting that DNC is here to save the day.

Mind you, its not *useless*, but the core of DNC utility is its Dance Parner buffing & Technical Finish (both included in rDPS).
Not its healing flavor.

CW alone can save the healers a lot of work. 2x CW from our DNC hits for about 13,5-14k, my Indom (400 potency) for about 11k. CW saves me several AF heals throughout the fight and used at the end of Purgation even allows us to get by without a single GCD heal unless someone mistimes their mit. Without it, I'd have to Spreadlo at the end to survive the last hit.
So yes, healers can definitely forgo a heal with a CW from the DNC.
Impro ticks for about 2,3k with our gear which, again, saves a heal. It's especially useful during bleeds or mechanics where you have a constant HP loss like Purgation. It's useful even without the shield.

I agree that MCH needs more than just utility but DNC brings a lot of free healing on a low cooldown that gives it an edge over BRD and MCH even if their dps would be perfectly balanced. It loses value as you get more gear but before that it does lead to an increase of healer dps.

Edit: I don't think utility has to be free healing. Partywide movement speed, mitigation, MP refresh, heal increase all work and I think it was a mistake that SE scraped it.
As much as many, myself included, meme'd about Expedient when it was first announced, it can make the difference between being able to fully slidecast movement and eating a dps loss not to mention it makes mechanics with tight movement a lot safer. MCH could very well have an infight Peloton on a cooldown.
Palisade and Refresh were great utility and they would go well with current fight/ class design too. MCH has so much real estate on its hotbars, a bit of utility would go a long way and doesn't have to come in the form of healing if that goes too much against the class fantasy for you.