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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    everything is overpriced for someone, depending on which price he wants it to buy

    But as I said, each guy that find a price not "fair" just dont have any knowledge about economics
    overpriced is not how you fell about it. its how much its cost to make vs how much they sell it for. and ones more why its more that the patch content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    sorry I just have a master degree in economics and finance
    doubt this one
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    you dont pay a painter for the paint you pay them for the years and years hard work to get to that point
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    SE doesn't charge for actual content in the game?? yes they do. monthly even.
    You knew exactly what I meant; they don’t charge separately for content, it’s all included in the base package (fee for expac + monthly).

    You are just arguing for arguments sake at this point.
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  5. #265
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    overpriced is not how you fell about it. its how much its cost to make vs how much they sell it for.
    Nope. Let me explain:

    Let's say I hire you to dig a ditch by hand. It takes you four hours.
    I provide the shovel, lunch, drinks, snacks, sunscreen.
    How much should I pay you?
    Well, how much did it cost you to dig the ditch? Just your time.
    But what is your time worth?
    If it was time you would have otherwise spent playing FFXIV, not much, right?
    So should you dig the ditch for nothing, the amount you would have made playing FFXIV?

    Maybe I should pay you agricultural minimum wage, $7.25 an hour. $29 for four hours work.
    Anything more than that, you would be overpriced, right?
    Because I could at least in theory have hired someone else to do it for $29.

    Now, on the other hand, let's say you hire a layer to obtain a patent from the US Patent and Trademark Office.
    That will be $500 per hour, please, four hour minimum, plus the fees the Patent Office charges.
    The only cost the lawyer has is their time; why is it worth $2000 while yours is worth $29?

    Another example:
    Ted makes a widget and it costs him $50 do so.
    Bob makes the same widget but it costs him $100 to do so.
    Both wholesale the product to Wailmart, where you go to buy it.
    What price should you pay for the widget?

    Another:
    Two homes, one in a blighted area of Chicago, another in Golden Oaks in Walt Disney World.
    Both cost the same to build, including the cost of the land.
    Which will sell for more?
    (The only homes currently available in Golden Oaks is $9.5 million, BTW, $1000/sq.ft.)

    And finally:
    You own a Picasso, and put it up for auction at Christy's.
    It cost Picasso less than $100 in materials to make.
    Plus you could make a practically perfect replica, using a scanner, a computer, a 3D printer, and an industrial inkjet printer, for a few hundred thousand dollars, including the cost of buying the equipment.
    What's the most anyone should pay for your Picasso?

    So, here's the point:
    Things sell based on value to the buyer, not on cost to the seller.
    When the value is greater than the cost, the seller profits.
    When it isn't, the seller goes out of business.
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  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    You knew exactly what I meant; they don’t charge separately for content, it’s all included in the base package (fee for expac + monthly).

    You are just arguing for arguments sake at this point.
    yes they do. just admit you was wrong as you just dig it dipper.
    you pay monthly to play the latest content. you BUY expansions to have new content as well. no of it is free. clearly they will not ask for extra per content. no one do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    WHAT.
    if this is what they teach you then we are all fucked in the nest 10 or so years. How much should I pay you? how much the government demands from you to pay at a minimum and how much the compotation willing to pay at the maximum. now if you can get some one for cheaper that the minimum you go for it. may not be legal but what ever.
    on the widget it depends why one is cheaper. if one made out of shit and one of good materials it take the good one. thing is the last glam texture is not so good. the last one was WAY better and what wee go in game as well. so what we go here is the 50$ texture they sell for 100$.
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    Last edited by magitekLuna; 09-18-2022 at 12:37 AM.

  7. #267
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    overpriced is not how you fell about it. its how much its cost to make vs how much they sell it for. and ones more why its more that the patch content?
    Ur talking about cost, not about value
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  8. #268
    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Ur talking about cost, not about value
    I pay 1000$, I sell it 1000$ (without wages), this is the price only considering cost, without considering added value


    Now the how much is the added value?, 1010$? if it's doable by anyone? 1040$? Because everyone wants it? Or 10 000$ because only few people can make it ? Etc

    "Value" don't have any strict economic definition

    The "FAIR price" is the price that make people sell and buy
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    if this is what they teach you then we are all fucked in the nest 10 or so years. How much should I pay you? how much the government demands from you to pay at a minimum and how much the compotation willing to pay at the maximum. now if you can get some one for cheaper that the minimum you go for it. may not be legal but what ever.
    on the widget it depends why one is cheaper. if one made out of shit and one of good materials it take the good one. thing is the last glam texture is not so good. the last one was WAY better and what wee go in game as well. so what we go here is the 50$ texture they sell for 100$.
    How amusingly incoherent. An appropriate response would be "You can lead a horse to water, but ..."
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    The financial illiteracy in this thread is mind numbing.

    What's more distressing to me is that these people will vote.
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