Online Store is Getting Worse!

[Derio]

The real crime is they continue to release clothes for hrothgar and Viera that dont work for their heads.

[Anura]

So, neither Deveryn nor that viera have the capacity to explain what I asked. What a surprise. Neither of you have basic knowledge of what you're talking about, but have the gall to act condescending towards some people. I understand, I do. Being confidently wrong has it's uses, after all, like grifting ignorant people. Don't bother replying if you cannot answer how it is acceptable to sell a single cosmetic for a fraction of a triple-a.

[Deveryn]

Such projection....

Go read through the thread. We've been over this part. I'm not wasting my time on explaining this when you're being a prick about it. You won't be satisfied with the answer and will find some way to try and dismiss / discredit.

[IkaraGreydancer]

So, neither Deveryn nor that viera have the capacity to explain what I asked. What a surprise. Neither of you have basic knowledge of what you're talking about, but have the gall to act condescending towards some people. I understand, I do. Being confidently wrong has it's uses, after all, like grifting ignorant people. Don't bother replying if you cannot answer how it is acceptable to sell a single cosmetic for a fraction of a triple-a.

I mean should everything just cost 50 cents then? 10 cents maybe? Heck less than that if we're going by your logic. That outfit doesn't even make up 1% ofcthe ones in game therefore if we apply your logic they should be sold for pennies because that's the ratio.

You see how off that is?

[Anura]

I mean should everything just cost 50 cents then? 10 cents maybe? Heck less than that if we're going by your logic. That outfit doesn't even make up 1% ofcthe ones in game therefore if we apply your logic they should be sold for pennies because that's the ratio.

You see how off that is?

I'm only trying to prove how the argument of time spent is mostly nonsense when it comes to digital products. A triple-a game has 100x the time and effort put into it compared to any single cosmetic in the mogstation, but it would be considered cheap if we compare the prices. No, the price is not "fair" for an item with infinite supply and no risk. The price will never plummet since you cannot flood the market, so the price that they set will be held unless no one buys it and they decide to cut it for a time.

Rambling.

Do me a favour and keep your schizophrenic ramblings to yourself. This is a forum, if you're not in a mood to discuss, just close the tab.

[Renalt]

I'm only trying to prove how the argument of time spent is mostly nonsense when it comes to digital products. A triple-a game has 100x the time and effort put into any single cosmetic in the mogstation, but it would be considered cheap if we compare the prices. No, the price is not "fair" for an item with infinite supply and no risk. The price will never plummet since you cannot flood the market, so the price that they set will be held unless no one buys it and they decide to cut it for a time.



Do me a favour and keep your schizophrenic ramblings to yourself. This is a forum, if you're not in a mood to discuss, just close the tab.

Dude...let people spend their money the way they want. It's priced that way cause people buy it. If people didn't...you'd see a cut in price damn near instantly.

I don't like the prices and I think it's dumb too but I'm not about telling people how they should spend their money. If they want to do it...they ARE going to do it...and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

Relax man.

[Anura]

Dude...let people spend their money the way they want. It's priced that way cause people buy it. If people didn't...you'd see a cut in price damn near instantly.

I don't like the prices and I think it's dumb too but I'm not about telling people how they should spend their money. If they want to do it...they ARE going to do it...and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

Relax man.

I know, I'm not policing anyone. There are people spending a hundred dollars on a house back on ESO and I've never said anything to them. Zenimax is selling overpriced shit, so I went after them, not that it made any difference. Now, if people decided to say it's fair, then yes, I'd argue it's not, but not because I'm strictly against cash shops. Hell, I bought a bunch of costumes off them, after all.

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It's a virtual product with a set price that you CANNOT influence by offering more of the same. Square has complete and absolute control over it, so they can set whatever price they want just being careful to not completely extrapolate it. It's a unique item only available here, to people who play the live service game which has the objective of CONSTANTLY finding new players, when it's not on life support. Never will "everyone" have such item. It's even limited to a single character per purchase, not your account, and since, again, Square has complete control over it, it cannot break (unless they're utterly stupid). They can just use basic strategies like fomo. And no, it has no risk. The time and money that goes into making cosmetics is minimal and the profit is humongous. There are some videos of (valve?) employees talking about how little goes into making such items and how they're constantly making huge piles of cash. A risk is what Square took making that shitty Avengers game, which fell on their face.

[kaynide]

I'm only trying to prove how the argument of time spent is mostly nonsense when it comes to digital products. A triple-a game has 100x the time and effort put into it compared to any single cosmetic in the mogstation, but it would be considered cheap if we compare the prices. No, the price is not "fair" for an item with infinite supply and no risk. The price will never plummet since you cannot flood the market, so the price that they set will be held unless no one buys it and they decide to cut it for a time.

That's the rub though, Square Enix owns everything that goes into the game, including MogStation glamour items. They have the right to price their wares at whatever price they want, and assuming sales happen, then capitalism "is working as intended". They are hardly ignorant of pricing and sales and surely have the data telling them where the sweet spot is to maximize profits. There is no reason to price anything "fairly". It boils down to people buying it or not, continuing to play or not, engaging in X or not; all of which gives them data on future pricing.

And so far, the data clearly shows things are selling at the current price point.

It is irrelevant if it is digital or not- if the product is selling for a higher price, they'd be a fool to reduce the price and take money away from your company/shareholders/staff. They're not running a charity.

This is exactly why craptastic games/movies quickly move to DVD, and certain titles like Zelda for Switch still sell for around $70 in Japan, despite being a 2017 title.

..and yet other 2017 AAA games like Horizon Zero Dawn are going for about $20.00. (60% sale off from 40$ish on Steam atm..but then again it's been on sale like 5 times this year)

Both fantastic games..but well, there's a reason why Nintendo calls Zelda/Mariokart/Smash Bros "evergreen".

These companies all know where there sweet pricing spot is to maximize as much profit as they can get.

[Raoabolic]

That's the rub though, Square Enix owns everything that goes into the game, including MogStation glamour items. They have the right to price their wares at whatever price they want, and assuming sales happen, then capitalism "is working as intended". They are hardly ignorant of pricing and sales and surely have the data telling them where the sweet spot is to maximize profits.

It is irrelevant if it is digital or not- if the product is selling for a higher price, they'd be a fool to reduce the price and take money away from your company/shareholders/staff. They're not running a charity.

This is exactly why craptastic games/movies quickly move to DVD, and certain titles like Zelda for Switch still sell for around $70 in Japan, despite being a 2017 title.

..and yet other 2017 AAA games like Horizon Zero Dawn are going for about $20.00. (60% sale off from 40$ish on Steam atm..but then again it's been on sale like 5 times this year)

These companies all know where there sweet pricing spot is to maximize as much profit as they can get.

Then they should not get upset when others pirate their software. Money is an issue to everyone, not just multimillion dollar companies so when they hold IPs hostage by turning games into a "live service" full of dlc and microtransactions then they should expect there will be pushback. It is nice seeing dev rants in the game files though, feels good when there are those out in the trenches that can still call a spade a spade even if they have to hide it in a .dat file, lol.

P.S. I hope they add denuvo to the switch games like nintendo is threatening to, I want to see what kind of hacky rigging denuvo will have to implement for switch carts~!

[Silverbane]

So, neither Deveryn nor that viera have the capacity to explain what I asked.

You can take a two-year-old to a market,
You can give them money, and let them spend it as they choose.
But no one has "the capacity to explain" economics to a two-year-old.

That old saying that there are no bad students, only bad teachers?
It's a lie, and a precurser to the everyone-gets-a-trophy culture.