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  1. #1
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Sooooo I got rank 10 with my Sanctuary today. Here's what you get.

    Because I see a lot of people asking and wondering about certain things but other people that have had rank 10 just seem to talk about the bike...

    Nothing seems to have upgrade options so far. You can fly on the island though, which means you can complete the map. Flying also lets you get to a couple of nice gatherering locations, not that it matters. One spot is really good for Islewort and Cotton Bolls, although the main spot for Cotton Bolls was already good to begin with. The other spot atop the mountain is good for Quartz(the best place for it actually). Feels weird to get these after there's nothing left to build improve upon. Your granaries can sustain your workshop(and themselves with a surplus of 50 cowries per expedition if you sell off the 4 rare materials.

    There's also the obvious motorcycle that everyone is mentioning(that I'm mentioning again because we can't seem to mention this thing enough).

    I guess at this point it goes from a daily to a weekly. At this point it can be really casual. I can load up the granary for the week, set the workshop up for multiple sessions.
    • I could come back daily to gatherer from my animals, but I don't really care about those.
    • I could also come back every two days to gather from my garden. I could casually do this by buying the seeds for 2 cowries each knowing that the rare seed produce sells for 6 each(and you receive 5 produce per seed). This would eliminate the need for you to rely on your granary or to gather seeds yourself.
    • I could also make sure to return every week to gather 100 mats and to check my workshop after it's made 20 items for 1,000 blue cowries each(these are weekly challenges that reset).

    The weeklies and the gardening are likely what I'll focus on doing, since between those and the surplus profit you make from selling off the rare materials, you should make 4,660 blue cowries a week. This doesn't include your workshop's profits.

    I personally don't feel like creating a spreadsheet for my workshop so I simply set it to cheap items that build up groove that can easily be maintained by my expeditions. I'll try to leave my workshop clear and see what I get for a week at some point. This seems to be the most casual way to handle it.
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    Last edited by NekoMataMata; 09-14-2022 at 08:45 PM.

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    Voidedge_Ragna's Avatar
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    Edge Void
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    1 Week of content if you somewhat focused on it, 2 if you took it easy ... after that it becomes a weekly for the Blue items and that's it.
    In other words pretty much everyone who cared about it, is already done with it.

    You options are, hard focus on Blue currency to get the mounts early and then ... be done.
    Or take it easy and go there once a week throw some random items into workshop and be eventually done anyway.

    The "content" on the island, is lame ... but they can still turn it around by giving it a purpose for those that want to decorate more, fingers crossed oof
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Yes, once you get to rank 10 and use cowries to upgrade everything then the long-term content is generating enough cowries for all the rewards.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    ... rank 10 just seem to talk about the bike....
    because all u get at 10 is flying and the bike(well and workshop recipes).... like I get that its hard to understand that considering everything you unlock at rank 9, but it's true. You even confirm it throught out his post of yours...

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    ... Your granaries can sustain your workshop(and themselves with a surplus of 50 cowries per expedition if you sell off the 4 rare materials.
    Do not do this!!!! Granieries are only worth it and only exist to bring back the rare items, the actual amount of items they contribute to your stock pile is 4-8 a day, that is no where close to enough to sustain or feed your workshop without additional gathering and without the rare items you miss out potential huge money earners in your workshop, selling an item for 25 blue cowries that makes an item that workshop for 300 cowries with no bonus and 0 groove. So your loosing 250 cowries minimum to this. This is horrible advice and counter to any logical thinking. If you feel that people aren't be give information they ask for, and u respond by giving them 100% incorrect and bad advice is not the way to go about fixing it. once your rare items exceed 30 would be a "safe point" to sale them off. especially if you aren't going super hard on the workshop.


    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    ... spending 2 paragraphs talking about motorcycle again?...[*]I could come back daily to gatherer from my animals, but I don't really care about those.
    your selling rare mats from granaries which u don't get enough of, but you're ignoring your animals, which u feed once at night rank 3 before before u go to bed to have the best chance at 2 items per animal. You shouldn't sale them because u can go through 30+ items in one day with workshop. However If we're doing it your way, you are missing out on 300-500 blue cowries a day by ignoring your animals. This is just doesn't make since. At the very least have 20 of the same animal and never feed them and take your 300 a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    [*]I could also come back every two days to gather from my garden. I could casually do this by buying the seeds for 2 cowries each knowing that the rare seed produce sells for 6 each(and you receive 5 produce per seed). This would eliminate the need for you to rely on your granary or to gather seeds yourself.
    gardens dry out in 1.5 days, so your garden would never finish checking every 2 days, your granaries bring back seeds, and u most likely have enough from getting to rank 10 if all your doing is selling and if you aren't worried about your workshop. Then u wouldn't need seeds for a long while, because what u grow doesn't matter so why spend blue cowries on seeds when u can spend nothing.... I dont recommend skipping anything even in being casual, but if your going to skip something, the garden not the animals because the garden is actually more work.

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    [*]I could also make sure to return every week to gather 100 mats and to check my workshop after it's made 20 items for 1,000 blue cowries each(these are weekly challenges that reset).
    You granaries do the gathering for you and count towards that log. So why are u gathering 100 mats if you are skipping animals? this makes no since.

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    The weeklies and the gardening are likely what I'll focus on doing, since between those and the surplus profit you make from selling off the rare materials, you should make 4,660 blue cowries a week. This doesn't include your workshop's profits.

    I personally don't feel like creating a spreadsheet for my workshop so I simply set it to cheap items that build up groove that can easily be maintained by my expeditions. I'll try to leave my workshop clear and see what I get for a week at some point. This seems to be the most casual way to handle it.
    Surplus is mats you don't need, if you are selling instead of using your garden your returns on investment are negative. I don't create spreadsheets I right click and plan by the supply/demand chart, set up a day, and then copy and paste it into the other 2 workshops, and avg 15k cowries a week, from just the workshop, and thats not even giving it 100% attention and messing up several days because i was raiding. I cycled my garden to be finished in the morning, so I go to my island when I log in, clean my animals, tend to my garden and set up the next day workshop and done. I do occasionally have to gather mats since I try to maximize my workshop, which is what dps ques are for. But once I have a good supply of rare mats. The granaries can help farm the mats that don't have good harvesting rotations(looking at u rock salt) but their help wont even get you through your first 3 4 hour crafts. You are literally putting more work into ways to "be lazy" that are more work than just letting your island run on its own. The reason u don't see guides or helpers doing what you are is because it's not good.

    DO YOUR ISLAND YOUR WAY, but don't go give people some of the worst advice there is, and claim it casual, and be like yeah this is how u do it. You are spreading bad info, not being helpful
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    Last edited by Urielparadox; 09-14-2022 at 11:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna View Post
    In other words pretty much everyone who cared about it, is already done with it.
    Allow me to correct that for you:

    Those who didn't really care about Island Sanctuary and only want rush content to completion are done with it.
    Plenty of us are still enjoying it whether or not we've reached rank 10. Why? Because we cared about what the content was intended to be instead of trying to turn it into something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
    The reason u don't see guides or helpers doing what you are is because it's not good.

    DO YOUR ISLAND YOUR WAY, but don't go give people some of the worst advice there is, and claim it casual, and be like yeah this is how u do it. You are spreading bad info, not being helpful
    The reason there aren't guides suggesting what the OP is doing is because guides are ultimately designed for players who demand efficiency over exploring content on their own at a slow pace.

    Look at your own bold text - DO YOUR ISLAND YOUR WAY - so don't go jumping on the OP for giving bad advice. The advice may not be good for someone who wants to play like you do but it is fine for someone who wants to play like the OP does.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-14-2022 at 11:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Allow me to correct that for you:


    Plenty of us are still enjoying it whether or not we've reached rank 10. Why? Because we cared about what the content was intended to be instead of trying to turn it into something else.
    See, I don't feel like I rushed it at all, just enjoyed it at my own pace. I hit rank 10 last Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    See, I don't feel like I rushed it at all, just enjoyed it at my own pace. I hit rank 10 last Friday.
    I've been rank 10 on this character for a while now. I'm still going to my island daily feeding the creatures, tending my crops, occasionally doing a little gathering if I'm short on something for my workshop (frequently need more rock salt and laver). Sometimes I just run around or fly around for the heck of it because it's what the island is intended to be in the long run - relaxing content.

    Hitting Rank 10 might be a goal but it doesn't mean that's all there is to do.

    If someone isn't interested in the replayable aspects of the content, they should be saying there is nothing left on the island that holds their interest instead of things like "anyone who cared is done".
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-14-2022 at 11:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    The weeklies and the gardening are likely what I'll focus on doing, since between those and the surplus profit you make from selling off the rare materials, you should make 4,660 blue cowries a week. This doesn't include your workshop's profits.
    .
    *laughing on my (at least) 20k cowries per week just by doing the workshop, and not even putting effort on it, just checking some reddit spreadsheets at that's it*

    If anyone is interested in said spreadsheet here is the link:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...guide_version/
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    It's a 3-5 minute weekly. There's no reason to spend anymore than that on it. There really isn't any replayable content there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    It's a 3-5 minute weekly. There's no reason to spend anymore than that on it. There really isn't any replayable content there.
    Then why would anyone return daily or weekly if all the content there is once then done?

    Oh right. Because some of the content can be replayed daily/weekly. The only thing that isn't replayable is upgrading the buildings and getting the rank. You can even rebuild landmarks over and over as much as you like if you want to keep changing them.
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