AST (and DRG) had their improvements pushed to 7.0 PLD are getting theirs in 6.3

[Deceptus]

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Using Abyssos: The Eighth Circle (Savage) as an example, there are prolonged periods where the enemy cannot be attacked, as well as mechanics that grant increased damage to players, further emphasizing the value of burst damage. In such situations, the job's incompatibility with the duty becomes more readily apparent.

To substantively resolve these issues, we believe a full re-evaluation of actions is required. That said, waiting for such an evaluation would mean prolonging the unfavorable state of paladin. For this reason, we have elected to increase the potency of their actions in Patch 6.21.

As more significant adjustments to action mechanics will require more time, such changes will be implemented from Patch 6.3 onward. For now, we have elected to adjust actions that will improve the job's burst damage.

Talk about a double standard. AST and DRG were promised a rework but got pushed to 7.0 because "it would be too hard".

In previous Letter LIVEs, we mentioned that dragoon and astrologian would receive extensive adjustments in Patch 6.2; however, we’ll be postponing these adjustments based on the feedback we’ve received since Patch 6.1. Making extensive adjustments to a job on a fundamental level would involve numerous changes. The sheer number of changes would make it difficult to fully explain our intentions for each one, so we believe we should wait for an expansion release to make adjustments of that scale. With that said, rest assured we’ll continue to make minor adjustments.

PLD has issues with 1 week of savage and get a promised rework in the next major patch (a few months.)

From the tank forums:

there is not a single thing that was said in those two paragraphs that doesn't also apply to black mage, something good black mages will readily point out after last night..

[Coletergeist]

Tbh, I'm so scared of what they plan to do with AST; but if pushing it back will mean we won't get half-assed changes, I'm down for it. Still scared for the upcoming changes though; kinda sucks we have to be scared of changes to jobs. *sad face*

Although, AST isn't exactly in the best spot atm anyways. /shrug

[fulminating]

Well the difference is that there’s nothing really wrong with drg or ast, but paladin was bad to the point that it was being specifically excluded. Given the track record, it’s not like anyone is looking forward to the reworks.

[Baxcel]

Pally is the expansion job for Endwalker.. you've been here long enough to know that the expansion job always gets destroyed by SE at some point during its run.

[Renathras]

PLD has issues with 1 week of savage and get a PROMISED rework in the next major patch (a few months.)

To be fair, notice the emphasis I added to one word. AST was promised a rework, too. DRG was then also said to be getting a promised rework. Then both were pushed to 7.0. I honestly expect the major rework to PLD to ALSO be pushed to 7.0. If it hits in 6.3, you can complain, but I fully expect it will also get the "we'll get to that later" treatment. The Dev team will give out some buffs (DRG and AST don't need buffs PER SE since they're performing at a good level right now, especially AST, they're just clunky in a lot of ways) as a band-aid to get to 7.0, but I don't expect PLD getting any major rework.

Also note the language here: "such changes will be implemented from patch 6.3 onward" not "we're doing a full rework of PLD in 6.3 and will release the entire thing in 6.3 with no future adjustments or additions/changes.

This makes me think they'll do some potency changes and maybe change a CD timer or something, but leave the major rework for 7.0.

Also note the reason AST/DRG changes were pushed is PROBABLY because of the community - specifically SAM players freaking complaining endlessly about Kaiton being removed as if it was the single biggest and worst change in the history of gaming. I get liking an ability, but Kaiton was NOT some end-all, be-all thing, but the backlash was so hyperbolic and extreme that the Devs seemed to have decided they would push all major changes to 7.0. So blame SAMs/the community for AST (and DRG and likely PLD) reworks not coming until 7.0.

[Liam_Harper]

Something else interesting from the patch is that they claim to have a mythical god-tier Development team who can clear min ilv p8s, pre-nerf, with any comp of dps.

Their healers would absolutely need to be on the ball with perfect dps uptime to even come close to making that possible. So if such healers exist on the dev team, why have healers been a mess for 2-3 expansions. So many things don't add up.

[IceBlueNinja]

To be fair, notice the emphasis I added to one word. AST was promised a rework, too. DRG was then also said to be getting a promised rework. Then both were pushed to 7.0. I honestly expect the major rework to PLD to ALSO be pushed to 7.0. If it hits in 6.3, you can complain, but I fully expect it will also get the "we'll get to that later" treatment. The Dev team will give out some buffs (DRG and AST don't need buffs PER SE since they're performing at a good level right now, especially AST, they're just clunky in a lot of ways) as a band-aid to get to 7.0, but I don't expect PLD getting any major rework.

Also note the language here: "such changes will be implemented from patch 6.3 onward" not "we're doing a full rework of PLD in 6.3 and will release the entire thing in 6.3 with no future adjustments or additions/changes.

This makes me think they'll do some potency changes and maybe change a CD timer or something, but leave the major rework for 7.0.

Also note the reason AST/DRG changes were pushed is PROBABLY because of the community - specifically SAM players freaking complaining endlessly about Kaiton being removed as if it was the single biggest and worst change in the history of gaming. I get liking an ability, but Kaiton was NOT some end-all, be-all thing, but the backlash was so hyperbolic and extreme that the Devs seemed to have decided they would push all major changes to 7.0. So blame SAMs/the community for AST (and DRG and likely PLD) reworks not coming until 7.0.

It reminds of of when SCH mains throw one heck of a hissy fit at losing energy drain in 5.0 and then they got it back, but was that skill really worth it? I doubt base on what it seem to do now.

[Nizzi]

It reminds of of when SCH mains throw one heck of a hissy fit at losing energy drain in 5.0 and then they got it back, but was that skill really worth it? I doubt base on what it seem to do now.

Was the skill that allowed SCH to actually have some form of free healing and movement that wasn't a straight DPS loss worth it in Shadowbringers? Wow, I sure do wonder.

[Shikiseki]

Be careful what you wish for, I can already smell the rework to include a new 2 minute burst rotation already. You better not die or sleep at that said burst window or your damage goes down the drain for the remainder of the fight

[ty_taurus]

Be careful what you wish for, I can already smell the rework to include a new 2 minute burst rotation already. You better not die or sleep at that said burst window or your damage goes down the drain for the remainder of the fight

AST already adheres to the 2 minute burst window though.