My proposal

[Youngsun]

We should get rid of threads... then maybe people will spend more energy testing useful information, then whining about nothing... if somethings too hard, then maybe your not doing it right.. if you think the primals are too much of a grind, don't do them... if youre not getting enough points in hamlet...level a DoL or DoH job...

i understand people need to vent sometimes, and things can be frustrating.. but i'm not seeing so much.. "hey, i've been finding i have been busting on an increased amount of synths lately, anybody else having the same issue?".. but more so.. "OMG CRAFTING IS SO HARD CHANGE IT RIGHT NOW!" Is this our game or their game? Did they make this game because they wanted to make the game? because they had a vision? or because we demanded it so? so why do we demand now?

constructive feedback is always good.. but demanding the game be easier for what? so you dont have to work as hard as the rest of us? Because you CHOOSE to put in X amount of time, and other people CHOOSE to put in more? Why should we not receive a greater reward for putting in greater amounts of time?

I would be interested in seeing how many jobs and what jobs people have leveled... until you have ALL jobs at 50.. ALL primal weapons.. and ALL available content finished then tell me you have nothing to do...

[Yves]

I would be interested in seeing how many jobs and what jobs people have leveled... until you have ALL jobs at 50.. ALL primal weapons.. and ALL available content finished then tell me you have nothing to do...

I would suggest a similar approach to making a suggestions about how people view content.

Source: your lodestone profile.

Let me know how you feel about grinding DoH when you have two to 50.

Also, I'm not sure you should even really be commenting about primal weapons. Here is the most recent achievement from your profile from 06/02/2012.

"Youngsun Dourden has completed the Order of the Twin Adder quest “In for Garuda Wakening (Gridania)”!"

[Gramul]

Holy cow!
You still have a Halloween avatar!

[Dragon]

I disagree with the OP, I think we should instead torture him.

[Youngsun]

I <3 it! it's so cute!

[Youngsun]

I would suggest a similar approach to making a suggestions about how people view content.

Source: your lodestone profile.

Let me know how you feel about grinding DoH when you have two to 50.

Also, I'm not sure you should even really be commenting about primal weapons. Here is the most recent achievement from your profile from 06/02/2012.

"Youngsun Dourden has completed the Order of the Twin Adder quest “In for Garuda Wakening (Gridania)”!"

I like DoH, and DoL and all the content really.. I'm not complaining about content.. or lack of it.. or grinding being too hard.. or any of that.. I play at my own pace and acquire things when I acquire things..

How many times do you think I've killed Ifrit, how many times do you think I've done moogle.. is there anything from garuda i want? not really..

but I believe your missing the overall point.. I'm not complaing about any of that stuff.. I'm complaining about the people who seem to believe they have the right to demand how things should be for them because they are the only ones playing this game.. i dont see how your post has anything to do with what i actually said..

[Youngsun]

I disagree with the OP, I think we should instead torture him.

her*

and what do you disagree with?

[Dragon]

her*

and what do you disagree with?

It was supposed to be a means of irony... that seems to have been lost in the internet void.

I disagreed with your proposal of using bombs on the forum, considering your own profile, and would rather torture you instead.

[Yves]

I like DoH, and DoL and all the content really.. I'm not complaining about content.. or lack of it.. or grinding being too hard.. or any of that.. I play at my own pace and acquire things when I acquire things..

How many times do you think I've killed Ifrit, how many times do you think I've done moogle.. is there anything from garuda i want? not really..

but I believe your missing the overall point.. I'm not complaing about any of that stuff.. I'm complaining about the people who seem to believe they have the right to demand how things should be for them because they are the only ones playing this game.. i dont see how your post has anything to do with what i actually said..

It has a lot to do with it. The people who are playing the game are the only supporters of the game. If the community isn't vocal then change doesn't happen. Now, with that said, not all ideas are equal. I have a strong disdain for "entitlement" content. I also don't believe that the game should cater to the hardcore only.

What the community wants (and how relevant those wants are) stem from the people who are experiencing the content. You, from the looks of your profile, are a casual player and haven't experienced the same grind that many others have. People had a right to complain about the EXP curve for DoH and demand a change - which is why people can actually level DoH now without killing themselves.

Make better sense?

[Maxthunder]

We should get rid of threads... then maybe people will spend more energy testing useful information, then whining about nothing... if somethings too hard, then maybe your not doing it right.. if you think the primals are too much of a grind, don't do them... if youre not getting enough points in hamlet...level a DoL or DoH job...

i understand people need to vent sometimes, and things can be frustrating.. but i'm not seeing so much.. "hey, i've been finding i have been busting on an increased amount of synths lately, anybody else having the same issue?".. but more so.. "OMG CRAFTING IS SO HARD CHANGE IT RIGHT NOW!" Is this our game or their game? Did they make this game because they wanted to make the game? because they had a vision? or because we demanded it so? so why do we demand now?

constructive feedback is always good.. but demanding the game be easier for what? so you dont have to work as hard as the rest of us? Because you CHOOSE to put in X amount of time, and other people CHOOSE to put in more? Why should we not receive a greater reward for putting in greater amounts of time?

I would be interested in seeing how many jobs and what jobs people have leveled... until you have ALL jobs at 50.. ALL primal weapons.. and ALL available content finished then tell me you have nothing to do...

This may go off subject a bit, but it is realtive to what you are getting at. The fact is, that the current content yes is a grind but could be done differently so that everytime a player plays it, it would be different. A good example would be hamlets cc and av. Everytime players go in it is the exact same thing nothing changes. There is only 1 thing to do and that is speed run it to try and get certain drops. The content we have now has only 1 purpose and it shouldnt be that way and that is why players are complaining.

Now primal fights are very much the same way except it is 1 boss fight and again nothing changes. The Devs could have been and should have been more creative in the dungeons and primal fights so that there would be mulitple things to do. This would help make the grind much better as again there would be different things to do.

They could have combine cc and av and the primal fights together and again they could have given each dungeon different things to do to get weapons and gear that players want as well as increase of drop rates. Unfortunatly they didnt and that right there is killing the content because after a player dose 200 of the same fight same dungeon that never changes it gets old fast.