"Balance team tests the fights themseslves"

[xbahax92]

No, it really really isn't.

Two tiers in a row this has happened. That's 2/3 of the expansions raid tiers, and we only get 3 of them total every two years. This is the content that keeps an entire section of the playerbase coming back, and it's been crap two times in a row, and has only gotten worse the second time around.

This is the exact kind of stuff the people that love to bash WoW constantly for will cite as major problems in WoW. I know a bunch of people who saw the situation this tier and either quit when they reached p8s, or decided not to raid at all. It's not good for people to feel alienated by the content that brings them back to the game.

There is absolutely no sign this won't just happen a third time, and be even worse than the first two times, so people are reasonably extremely concerned at the direction job design and encounter design is being taken.

I thought only a small percentage of the playerbase only does savage, even less ultimates?
I dont know how this arguments holds up, as many players are just playing for the casual content. But one thing is certain, the entitlement in this thread reeks.

[Iyrnthota]

I thought only a small percentage of the playerbase only does savage, even less ultimates?
I dont know how this arguments holds up, as many players are just playing for the casual content. But one thing is certain, the entitlement in this thread reeks.

What's the point of even bring casuals into the discussion?
If this whole issue is stricly the 1% having issues, the 1% complaining about the balance that only affects them, and the changes made only affect the 1% with casuals being otherwise unaffected, why even bring them up?

I don't mean this disparagingly btw, I just don't see how they have a leg in the game here

[LittleImp]

I thought only a small percentage of the playerbase only does savage, even less ultimates?

There are servers on JP with a savage tier clear rate exceeding 50% in some tiers. P5S was actually the fight with the most clears logged week 1, ever. People really need to stop trying to frame Savage as niche content, because it isn't and hasn't been for a very long time.

I dont know how this arguments holds up, as many players are just playing for the casual content. But one thing is certain, the entitlement in this thread reeks.

If casual players aren't playing this content, they should probably stop participating in a discussion around something that doesn't impact them then.

But one thing is certain, the entitlement in this thread reeks.

Why is it entitlement to expect the game to maintain similar tuning standards? Why is it entitlement to expect to be able to play my main job while raiding? This is the same community that constantly spins the "Anyone can clear any content uwu" and "Every job is viable uwu" bs as some kind of weird virtue signal about how perfect and inclusive the game is, but the moment the game has serious balance issues we're suddenly not allowed to care about it lol.

Stop trying to use 'entitlement' nonsensically to dismiss people you don't agree with, especially on a topic that isn't even relevant to your own experience in game.