"Balance team tests the fights themseslves"

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

while i wont disagree with this, my fc on primal has an ultimate legends raider group that has been together for years and they cleared p8s on monday last week only after swapping some classes. so it is not just a player skill issue in some cases.

You can clear ultimate without actually being amazing.

They are long fights, and they require skill, but they are not exponentially harder, from my experience.

Mechanics come out faster, sure. But I was starting to zone out doing weapons refrains first two phases, they had basically become muscle memory.

I've seen plenty of ultimate raiders fail basic mechanics in older fights.