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    Zarkovitch's Avatar
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Sorry I'm slide casting for my dps and swift cast for incase death or drip dps gain. Meanwhile a melee got 2 stacks of true north and they can ask the tank to move the boss to a certain direction for positional. New melee got it easy mode on this expansion. Let's accept we have it hard but when the time comes... (aka buffs caster in general) we be gods!
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    Sorry I'm slide casting for my dps and swift cast for incase death or drip dps gain. Meanwhile a melee got 2 stacks of true north and they can ask the tank to move the boss to a certain direction for positional. New melee got it easy mode on this expansion. Let's accept we have it hard but when the time comes... (aka buffs caster in general) we be gods!
    Let's not forget that half the fights don't have positionals because the boss hitbox is a circle
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    Saimeren Stons
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    Brynhildr
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I love how riled up I got people with my troll comment. Lol I didn't for one second think anyone was going to take that seriously.

    You guys are funny.
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    Caius Megaflare
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saimeren View Post
    I love how riled up I got people with my troll comment. Lol I didn't for one second think anyone was going to take that seriously.

    You guys are funny.
    Tell me then how to tell the difference between a Troll,
    and a person who really thinks what they write, it's a little difficult to guess, or else it must have an explicit ending in the writing.

    It certainly has a lot of trolls on a forum, but also a lot of people who have different opinions and actually mean what they write,
    It is impossible to really understand if the person is serious or not without distinction, it is often what leads to misunderstandings.
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    Last edited by remiff; 09-15-2022 at 01:36 AM.

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    Saimeren Stons
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    /s

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    Adorable creatures with unacceptable features!

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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saimeren View Post
    I love how riled up I got people with my troll comment. Lol I didn't for one second think anyone was going to take that seriously.

    You guys are funny.
    So... you know... don't troll, maybe?
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saimeren View Post
    I love how riled up I got people with my troll comment. Lol I didn't for one second think anyone was going to take that seriously.

    You guys are funny.
    I don't really know who you are but usually it's up for others to judge and perceive a message written with words. Still, usually not a smart idea to say anything to a group of players who's just being ignored by the dev team and "defend" yourself by saying, "Guys, it was a joke!"

    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    I'm raiding on NIN this tier but I've been playing RDM since Stormblood so I'm with you casters. At the very least SMN+RDM need to be close to the lowest melee. That's historically how things have generally been, at least with RDM as SMN was a different animal in the past. Last I looked RDM was even below the phys ranged which is unacceptable with how much the job has to fight for uptime. 2 accelerations and 1 swift isn't enough when many mobile parts will have RDM outside of melee range. The new EX was the first time I straight up refused to touch the fight with RDM and EX trials are usually my RDM time. Having a rez doesn't even justify it doing so poorly because "just swap to SMN/BLM after prog" is poor design.
    Thanks for the support brother. Summoner ain't really better. It's "better" because they avoid the uptime issues form caster thanks to their superior mobility which, somehow, Square really wanted to prove but it's only proved that its still a bad design and that RDM is just suffering from it.
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    Kaede Kaata
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
    It is normal that some mobility tax exists, but it should be drastically reduced, especially since the red mage is only mobile 60% of his rotation, and the summoner about 90%. but it is above all that he has a moment of risk taking in the rotation, the red mage who has a melee combo, and the summoner who must use his gap closer Ifrit+ ifrit melee spell.

    the casters must be +- 4% behind the melee, however the black mage always needs to have a good lead over RDM and SMN, so they must also adjust it if they increase the damage of the casters.

    Machinist should also be 4% below Melee DPS.

    The Bard and the Dancer seem to be in a good place due to their synergy and the latest crit changes,
    if the bard and the dancer have +- equal contribution it is very good.

    they also need to buff the reaper to be at the same RDPS level as dragoon.
    It’s not normal to have ranged tax anymore, the last tier that melee uptime was a thing on was verse casters struggle more with the uptime and since the devs said they design the fights now with melee uptime in mind then it should be the other way around casters should do more damage since they have to struggle for uptime(excluding smn)
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    If Melee has no downtime then casters should probably be buffed. Then again if constant movement is the issue then maybe mastering Infinite Paradox BLM is the way to go.

    RDM and SMN have the issue where anything meaningful for the RDM is in their Burst and SMN has a trash can of a kit between restrictive summon system and outdated Aetherflow tacked on to it.

    BLM seems like the only decent option but compared to the other DPS it's quite low as well with all the melees being propped up this xpac.
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