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  1. #1
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    CKNovel's Avatar
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    Cassia Kaedhan
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame View Post
    If you provide buff, you depend on your team up to a certain point to get rDPS. I, as a Reaper, depend on my team into the 2 minute burst. But the Bard, depends on the whole team for 100% of the time.

    Like I said, If you don't buff people as a BRD or DNC you lose something like 1300 DPS (And that's for 95% percentile, so Assuming that your team know their stuff).

    And about the comparison with stuff included. I'm still on my position : YOU CAN'T COMPARE.
    rDPS only exists in FFLogs.
    In game, it has no impact on your personal performance. I understand if you allies don't take advantage of the buff, it lowers the value of a DNC.
    Outside of it, you just provide a buff and you wouldn't know how much it would contribute, simply that stacking them is good.
    That's your job, you deliver the buff at the given time. What happens next is not your control, not impacted by your skill level.

    rDPS is a metric used to measure your contribution to the group, not your worth.
    What if you get the jobs on the lower end in your team, what if you get WAR, MCH, RDM, RPR? The rDPS will be lower, can you still say you're "punished" for it?
    But when the comp includes GNB, DRK, SAM, MNK, BLM, you're "rewarded" for this choice?

    rDPS isn't a good metric to evaluate a player skill.

    I'm also still standing on my point, you can and must compare them.
    Gear distribution is a player choice, feeding melee is a strategy, feeding a melee and buff it with dancer is a strategy one step further.
    Feeding a MCH isn't a viable strategy. I don't need numbers to explain this point as we know aDPS and rDPS.
    Ask yourself "why are the melee fed in the first place? Why is the dancer partner on the fed melee?"

    You get the answer: because Melee gets better value out of gear and Dance partner gets additional value out of someone's else gear.
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    MichiKyou's Avatar
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    Mevra Noor
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    rDPS only exists in FFLogs.
    You get the answer: because Melee gets better value out of gear and Dance partner gets additional value out of someone's else gear.
    Which is exactly what we are trying to address.
    If the DPS disparity between SAM/BLM/MCH was more equal, it would make sense to feed the machinist.

    Alternatively, adjust how dance partner works - so it can be readily applied to Ranged or Caster DPS without consequence. As it stance, dancer is a job only built around melee dps which is imbalanced.
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    Square, can we have an OCE fanfest now?