[Machinist] What is going on?

[Seraphor]

MCH does need potency buffs to start with. It's not a "short term" solution, it's a baseline step. MCH is supposed to be the 'selfish' phys ranged dps, yet is still far, far behind BRD and DNC.

At a minimum it needs a potency increase to it's main combo and Wildfire. It already has a half-decent burst.


It terms of group support, I'd say stick with the 'selfish' dps aspect as far as raid buffs go so it's still dealing all of it's own damage, but grant it non-dmg utility.
Something like a party shield or something, considering DNC has Curing Waltz and Improvised Finish, while BRD has single target buffs like Wardens Peaen and Natures Minne.
Another option could be an Expedience style speed buff, considering it has no mobility skill like the other two.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

MCH does need potency buffs to start with. It's not a "short term" solution, it's a baseline step. MCH is supposed to be the 'selfish' phys ranged dps, yet is still far, far behind BRD and DNC.

At a minimum it needs a potency increase to it's main combo and Wildfire. It already has a half-decent burst.


It terms of group support, I'd say stick with the 'selfish' dps aspect as far as raid buffs go so it's still dealing all of it's own damage, but grant it non-dmg utility.
Something like a party shield or something, considering DNC has Curing Waltz and Improvised Finish, while BRD has single target buffs like Wardens Peaen and Natures Minne.
Another option could be an Expedience style speed buff, considering it has no mobility skill like the other two.

The selfish-dps type was something MCH got shoehorned into with 5.0 after difficulty keeping the rivalry between BRD and MCH damage buffs roughly the same, when the solution of a third party (Dancer) being introduced was already on its way.

Selfish-DPS MCH can go away for all I care, I don't miss it.

[Seraphor]

The selfish-dps type was something MCH got shoehorned into with 5.0 after difficulty keeping the rivalry between BRD and MCH damage buffs roughly the same, when the solution of a third party (Dancer) being introduced was already on its way.

Selfish-DPS MCH can go away for all I care, I don't miss it.

Completely disagree. Each role should have different options within it.

Melee Have Samurai as the selfish DPS, and then Monk/Dragoon/Reaper have a range of utility options, and then Ninja comes out as the most utility oriented melee job.
Casters have BLM as the selfish DPS, and then Summoner and Red Mage provide varying levels of party support and raid buffs.

Physical ranged should be no different. Machinist is our selfish DPS, make it right.