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  1. 09-14-2022 06:59 AM #1
    FireMage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Almost like Red mage has a battle raise
    That is irrelevant in regards to balance
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  2. 09-14-2022 07:11 AM #2
    Rithy255
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    That is irrelevant in regards to balance
    Ok rdm doing the same or near amount damage as a BLM isn't Irrelevant, their should be a Significant difference between BLM and other casters, I don't get comparing BLM to RDM dps.
    It's Ignoring a major reason why you would bring a Red mage over a BLM which surprise people do, The DPS check was just extra hard this time why people wasn't playing RDM as much.

    I'd argue really that RDM/SMN should be lower then Phys ranged. (All jobs should in general be closer to melee dps).
    If you want RDM to have BLM dps then remove battle raise from both SMN/RDM if you want raise you shouldn't be near BLM, I'm sorry but giving people no reason to play Black Mage isn't the solution
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  3. 09-14-2022 07:17 AM #3
    Naizakane
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    That is irrelevant in regards to balance
    RDM has a raid buff, constant access to an instant cast raise, and a button that both mitigates incoming raidwides and boosts healing. Its damage is fine when what the job brings to a raid is taken to account, and it should in no way be able to compete with BLM on raw damage. Stop talking.
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  4. 09-14-2022 08:16 AM #4
    Absurdity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naizakane View Post
    RDM has a raid buff, constant access to an instant cast raise, and a button that both mitigates incoming raidwides and boosts healing. Its damage is fine when what the job brings to a raid is taken to account, and it should in no way be able to compete with BLM on raw damage. Stop talking.
    That raid buff is factored into the dps calculation, it's called rDPS, but even when looking at those numbers it is still far behind BLM who brings 0 party buffs. All of these tools do not matter in the first place when the lack of dps on redmage prevents you from beating the enrage week 1. Meeting the dps check in minimum ilvl gear also assumes you have 0 deaths so the raise is entirely useless as well.
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  5. 09-14-2022 09:52 AM #5
    Reimmi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naizakane View Post
    RDM has a raid buff, constant access to an instant cast raise, and a button that both mitigates incoming raidwides and boosts healing. Its damage is fine when what the job brings to a raid is taken to account, and it should in no way be able to compete with BLM on raw damage. Stop talking.
    Yes, it should not do the same dps as a blm
    No, it should not be this wide of a gap. And telling people to stop talking is childish.
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