Thread: [Megathread] What's wrong with 6.21, patch balance and nerfing p8s

Originally Posted by momokami

Almost like Red mage has a battle raise, Yeah rdm should be a bit better then it is but BLM isn't even doing enough for what it is

They need to make reaper perform better. It was said in the LL to be a selfish DPS similar to Samurai. That is the comparison Yoshi P made and as such I expect it's damage to not be too far from one. Week one the diff between a rpr and sam was night and day, unacceptable.

They can remove the hot from arcane crest entirely if it makes them feel justified in buffing it idc. I want the high dps that was expected when they decide to compare it to a samurai. They meant for it to be high dps only on release it was too high. They buffed the rest too far above it and now it's just weak by comparison.

Originally Posted by Serpent1ng

I honestly don't understand how you can look at the DPS disparity between Reaper and the rest of the melee dps and say that with a straight face.

Because it was a fact, that's why they posted it

Originally Posted by Rithy255

Almost like Red mage has a battle raise

That is irrelevant in regards to balance

Originally Posted by FireMage

That is irrelevant in regards to balance

RDM has a raid buff, constant access to an instant cast raise, and a button that both mitigates incoming raidwides and boosts healing. Its damage is fine when what the job brings to a raid is taken to account, and it should in no way be able to compete with BLM on raw damage. Stop talking.

Originally Posted by Naizakane

RDM has a raid buff, constant access to an instant cast raise, and a button that both mitigates incoming raidwides and boosts healing. Its damage is fine when what the job brings to a raid is taken to account, and it should in no way be able to compete with BLM on raw damage. Stop talking.

That raid buff is factored into the dps calculation, it's called rDPS, but even when looking at those numbers it is still far behind BLM who brings 0 party buffs. All of these tools do not matter in the first place when the lack of dps on redmage prevents you from beating the enrage week 1. Meeting the dps check in minimum ilvl gear also assumes you have 0 deaths so the raise is entirely useless as well.

Originally Posted by Naizakane

RDM has a raid buff, constant access to an instant cast raise, and a button that both mitigates incoming raidwides and boosts healing. Its damage is fine when what the job brings to a raid is taken to account, and it should in no way be able to compete with BLM on raw damage. Stop talking.

Yes, it should not do the same dps as a blm
No, it should not be this wide of a gap. And telling people to stop talking is childish.