Feature request DPS check for PS players

[Biggle]

These are the things you need to know

Your rotation
Your uptime
Your buff alignment

DPS meters don't tell you these at all. theyre things you learn by playing and making mistakes. (Log analysis, however can help you with these but a simple numbers meter will not whatsoever)

[XmissionsX]

These are the things you need to know

Your rotation
Your uptime
Your buff alignment

DPS meters don't tell you these at all. theyre things you learn by playing and making mistakes. (Log analysis, however can help you with these but a simple numbers meter will not whatsoever)

It’s a start, console players have no tools to analyze there performance at all, not even a basic dps meter, but the rest of the party if on pc has a huge arsenal to measure there performance and also my performance in detail. So make it impossible to use the external tool or accept that a huge part of the savage community uses the tools and make it even if only in a limited capacity available to everyone.

[Dzian]

Nowadays however it looks like the community is turning ugly as more people use them despite it's against the TOS and has known to have gotten people banned for using them.

At this point the ToS are a total joke. And SE are powerless to do anything about it. It's not just parsers but people using gathering bots and whatever other stuff as well.

They've done nothing for far too long and now they quite literally are powerless to act..

Had they acted early on they may have banned a few hundred accounts and sent a pretty clear message to the playerbase..

Instead though though did nothing so that few hundred players turned into a few hundred more and still nothing was done so then it turned into a few thousand and still nothing was done. And then a few thousand more and still nothing was done.

Then it became tens of thousands and still nothing was done.. and as more and more players see more and players breaching the ToS with zero repercussions then more and more players start doing it.

And now they are basically powerless.

If they banned everyone breaching the ToS now. They'd have to ban I dunno 3/4 of the games population because of how widespread it now is.

So they basically can't do anything. And all that does is mean more and more people start using these tools because well there's zero reason not to.

[Breakbeat]

If they banned everyone breaching the ToS now. They'd have to ban I dunno 3/4 of the games population because of how widespread it now is.

No, LOL. This is the kind of 'assumption' one makes when their scope of vision is extremely narrow. When they only watch streamers or listen to their friends about 'how the world of FFXIV really is," or when they assume that everyone else is running Savage content.

The player base that you are only a tiny, insignificant part of:

- People from ages 8-88, ESRB rating be damned. I doubt many eight-year-olds or octogenarians are running addons.

("Billy, you're crazy, no 80-year-olds play this game." Uh-oh, there's that narrow scope of vision rearing its ugly head again. My mom played this game until she simply couldn't anymore; she was 82 when she passed or she'd still be playing. My dad still plays and he is 80. I think if I had asked mom if she wanted a DPS meter she would have just given me a quizzical stare. Needless to say neither of them care or cared what their "DPS" was. My mom spent most of her time on glamours and apartment-decorating. Dad's spent a few years playing already and doesn't even have a max-level character yet. Mom loved this game and dad still does. I daresay my mom got more out of this game than some kid running Savage does. It took her mind off of the disease that slowly caused her to starve to death.)

- People that only log in and fish.
- People that only craft.
- People that like to do quests or MSQ as the core of their gameplay.
- Alt-o-holics.
- RPers.
- Folks that have 1 hour a week to play and don't raid.
- People who only want to own and design a house.
- People who don't even know that 3rd party addons exist.
- People that know of the addons but don't care or have no need for a DPS meter (hey, that's my group!)
- People that know of the addons and would run them but have respect for the ToS and don't.
- People that know of the addons and would run them but have fear of being actioned or banned.
- "Casuals" that don't care about DPS.

I'd say a far more educated guess is something closer to 10%. This would be near the 12% of people that routinely clear savage when it is relevant, minus the 2% of those players who still don't care about a DPS meter. OK, OK, I'll give you another 10% of 'casual' players that just want to see their DPS, and that leaves us at 20% of the player base that violates ToS to run a 3rd party addon.

If one truly believes 75% of the player base is just like them, that's delusional. That's just vastly over-estimating how many other people think or act like you do. Which is an extremely dangerous activity to get into once you're out there in the world in adulthood. Assuming everyone else wants what you want or thinks like you think leads to most of the horrors, most of the fighting, and all of the anger we see from the public in media today.

("How could those people possibly want that? I don't want that.")
("Why would those people act that way? I don't act that way.")
("This is what I would do, so this must be what everyone would do.")

Personally I'd feel a failure as a parent if my children didn't understand the above by the time they were ten years old. I'd feel as if I'd done something terribly wrong to leave them with such a narrow, naïve vision of how life actually works, and the patently false information that just because they think one way, means anyone else thinks the same way.

Maybe these are things you only learn when you go through 50 years of a hard life. I suppose being young and having worries at the top of your life list like "I need a FFXIV DPS meter," just aren't conducive to life lessons. But, then again, I understood this stuff when I was very, very young. Single-digit-age.

/shrug